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    Mystery 60mm mortar round

    My Uncle served as a B-17 bombardier in WW2, and after the Axis surrender he was stationed in Istres, Franceicon. All the .50 cal. guns were removed from the B-17's and replaced with cameras for aerial survey & map making in Europe. Istres was also used as a storage area for unused Germanicon ordnance. Uncle collected several souvenirs and brought them back to the USAicon, I am now the fortunate owner of those things.

    On his "bring-back" authorization papers is "61mm Mortar Bomb-saftied". (Images below) You gentlemen are very familiar with artifacts from the European theater, so I am hoping you can confirm from which country this mortar round is from. I have a US 60mm mortar & it is of different construction. I suspect that it is German since that's what was stored at Istres. The bomb casing is marked, "ACC 206 NS 38" & the brass fuze has markings in ink, "A.T.S. ???". The fin assembly is stamped, "DR-35-10-39". There are traces of black paint remaining. Question: Is it German & is the "38" & "39" the year(s) of manufacture. Thank you.
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    I.D of round

    Frenchicon 60mm Brandt HE mortar round and fuse.
    See googled pic took a bit of finding the correct one I can tell you.
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    I couldn't make anything of it myself after being led along the "Germanicon" path. I was certain it wasn't...theirs aren't even close to this type. There would be all kinds of stray ammo types dumped together after the war.
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    It was the fuse that got me I lucked onto a mortar round site and they had a 50mm one there but had the wrong tail fin assby so with that I googled 60mm Brandt mortar round and there she was but it took a while Jim.
    Anyway job done all is now revealed.

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    Thank you guys, Cinders & BAR. It's only my 2nd day as a member of this forum & already it has proved to be one of the better decisions that I've made. I am very impressed.

    What do you know about Japaneseicon Type 95 "shin gunto's" (WW2 NCO sword)?? Found some very interesting kanji on a wooden liner between the nakago & tsuka. A future post with pics will help.

    Again, thank you.

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    Shin Gunto

    Here's a pic of mine I traded a 1917 '07 bayonet for it has very minor pitting at the tip and a couple of small niks in the blade but nothing major anyone like to try and decipher the Mei (tang) I have tried a couple of sites but have not got any real definitive answers apart it being made in 1944 I think. TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boonie Stomper View Post
    What do you know about Japaneseicon Type 95 "shin gunto's"
    We have a forum for that, if you start a thread there you'll get the right exposure.


    Here...
    https://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=44
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    Japanese sword

    That is a great looking sword. Thanks again.

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    Is it not possible that some Germanicon units may have been equipped with Frenchicon 60mm mortars because the Germans were well known for making use of captured equipment?

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    French 60mm mortar

    That is very good possibility. The Germans used a lot equipment from countries that they conquered. There was a lot of ordnance there in Istres. I bet the US forces were using it as a disposal site for a lot of the recovered ordnance.

    My uncle's "bring-back" paper has 19 different pieces of ordnance listed, including the bomb.

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