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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    the age of a Britishicon/British Commonwealth cap badge
    With this one, if all that came from one uniform, except the Arty button...
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    The ribbon is King Edward VII Coronation...
    Then this is when it was worn. The crown would match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    Presumably the crown changed on a badge from Queen Victoria to Edward 7th then again to George 5th and so on.
    Edward VII through to Geo VI all used the same crown on badges, devices etc.

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    F10 you have to remember veterens are people too and not all people are good.
    Case in point, a good friends (adoptive) father was a veteren but he was also a verbally and occasionally physically abusive, compulsive lying, alcaholic. She had washed her hands of him before he died (her brother and sister had done so years before) so his stuff was cleaned up and disposed of by a government organisation. Sad, yes, but true.
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    Another point that Henry probably didn't want to mention is that some veterans have 'memories' that are what you'd best describe as er...., far fetched! Or that simply don't equate with reality or have been, let us say, 'clouded' by time or what others have told them or just what others - not me you understand - have described as pure twaddle. Sorry, but that's how I found some that used to visit us. The best, I found, were those from Korea.

    I have got my helmet on and awaiting the incoming..........

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    Krashed,
    Due primarily to a rank I held in the Army, dress codes and the wearing of medals became an important part of my day job.
    As a result, I did spend a great deal of time studying medals. I could therefore probably say that the medal ribbon shown in the second photo, Dark blue with central red stripe and white edging, is that of the Coronation Medal 1902 celebrating the coronation of King Edward V11 on the 9th August 1902. It was issued to selected NCO's and other ranks of both the Army and the Navy in Bronze, but silver to those dignatories and Officers taking part in the celebrations.
    Hope that is helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    some veterans have 'memories'
    We used to be attended by a WW1 vet in the Snr NCO mess back in the '80s...during the Remembrance day festivities... He was too old to be at the bar and just a little old white haired man. The older NCOs would always put the newest Sgt beside him for entertaining him. Someone to fetch him "Nelson's blood" and whatever he needed. I don't recall him wearing decorations but he had a UKicon accent still. The only part of our chat I recall was him saying "I had a company of Green Howards' during the great war"... Those days are gone.
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    Jim,
    You are right there..........now called the Rifles with all those great Regiments like the Green Jackets lost inside them, with the Green Howards making up the Yorkshire Regiment.
    Those amalgamations, and also those famous Scottish Regiments now swallowed up by Royal Regiment of Scotland....sad times indeed, I often wonder, why they needed to do that in my time, so to speak.
    Lets hope the youth of tomorrow bring them all back as Armies will naturally increase due to the many plates they are spinning around the world!!

    Looking forward to speaking to many veterans in Normandy in the next few weeks.
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    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    I just remember that no one would sit down and talk to him, he had such a feeble little voice over the din of...well, you've been in the mess during festivities, you know. When he died though, they hung a picture of him on the wall above the chair he loved to occupy... That building is gone now, the pic would have been gashed because none of the youngers would have known him.
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    Jim,
    Thats why it is imperative, that Military history and those individuals who paid with their lives, or survived and left with their memories, are treasured, and in many ways immortalised, by simply writing their details on the back of all the obje dats that messes acrue.
    I made sure that our mess manager had all pictures and every single artefact logged and passed to the next person and so on, which I assumed was SOP with every Regiment, besides the silverware!!
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Thats why it is imperative, that Military history and those individuals who paid with their lives, or survived and left with their memories, are treasured, and in many ways immortalised, by simply writing their details on the back of all the obje dats that messes acrue.
    Quite agree, what we are trying to do is preserve history for the future. The fact that the original owner of the item may not of been a nice person, in some cases, doesn't really enter the equation, in my opinion; the item should still be preserved.

    Having talked to older relatives, at length, over the years in the years following WW1 there were veterans living in the community with all manner of health issues, some physical and some mental. One of the private schools which my father attended in the 1940s had a headmaster who had been an officer in the Britishicon army during WW1 and had seen action in the trenches. The headmaster's and school's "normal" policy of dealing with naughty boys was a few slaps across the backside with "the slipper" administered by the headmaster. But very occasionally he would get "the cane" out, if he thought the offence warranted it. On one such occasion a boy had been caught interfering with another boy's bicycle wheel nuts and the boy was severely caned in front of the whole school in morning assembly. I do wonder if the headmaster's apparent nasty temper was due, in part, to his experiences in the trenches during WW1. The same headmaster did bring out his WW1 Webley service revolver on school sports day to start the races. The mind boggles of what would happen if something similar was done today.

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