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    Estate sale book has Vietnam Flag

    Purchased a few things at an estate sale last Friday. A old gunsmith book had a flag in it.
    Along with the flag was a typed page with a translation.

    Pardon all the pics but I'll share all I have.
    Few questions....
    Anyone think this is real?
    If so Is it NVA celebrating a victory over the South?

    Any help appreciated
    Charlie-Painter777

    P.S. At this same sale I bought a (I believe) a Vietnam era helmet (rear seam) with era correct camo cover and inner liner marked US 4. Plus a front seam unmarked WW11 shell and liner. I'll get pictures and do a new topic for help on these.



















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    Does anyone think this might be real?

    Would it be a Commie flag?

    A good Guess is welcomed

    Charlie-Painter777

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    Yes, I think it IS original. Exactly what it's celebrating is another thing...
    Regards, Jim

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    Add this to your meatball flag in the other post and may I suggest you find a casino ASAP to see if you have any good luck remaining.
    Nice find.

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    Of things NVA and VC, I wonder where our old pals in D-445 are now?

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    If this Wiki article is factual, they were a darn tough bunch. - Bob

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D445_Battalion

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    VERY "commie" flag, complete with "socialist realism" artwork.

    Loosely translated (and I am very rusty with what is left of my very rudimentary Vietnamese):

    Top Line:

    People's Liberation Front of South Viet Nam.

    Bottom lines:

    (Struggling now)

    Something about:

    Civil "stream" to arm Pleiku "district" k9 with knowledge volunteers

    (Something, something)

    1969

    It appears to be a "unit flag / "colour", belonging to an "armed propaganda team" from the "National Liberation Front" / Viet Cong.

    What is its provenance?

    "Southern" Vietnamese has slightly different "tones" in its words and a lot of different names for objects, when compared to "Hanoi" Vietnamese.

    Any translation advances?
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    Peter asked:

    "Of things NVA and VC, I wonder where our old pals in D-445 are now?"

    Mostly dead or very retired.

    A lot of VC were involved in the famous "Tet" (Lunar New Year) offensive and were very heavily "thinned" by US air power when they were used to perform a series of infantry assaults into the major cities in the south. Being caught, en masse, in the open by marauding "Spookys" is a definite health hazard.

    Those that survived, probably tried to go back to as normal a life as they could find, post war. This was apparently "interesting", as the place was suddenly awash with "victorious" regular northern troops, who rapidly went into garrison mode.

    I know of at least one retired VC "tax collector" who ended up working in a brewery in Dong Nai province, not far from the old Bien Hoa airfield.

    And only five years later, they mounted up again and rolled across the Parrots Beak, to deliver a response to the Khmer Rouge.

    Long Tan veteran, Terry Burstall did a book based on his combat experience with D-Coy, 6RAR. (“The Soldier’s Story)” University of Queensland Press, ISBN 0 7022 2002 7).

    There is also a “follow-up” volume called “A Soldier Returns”.

    See [URL="https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/data/UQ_190986/DA557_8_L66_B875_1990.pdf?Expires=1497405664&Signa ture=Ho98XluNmd4tKKV2rX3Eji6idNzdh4WPZdB-uW8qZH8PnjA87S3Kzc8AmLuUuH0JUgyLMpnXkmByFZxQhbTc0t jV5~itmYJEiDmbN5elxSBOvBihLXGoNw7faHv3hCen1BzkUQgB HnubcEBYNhGHoix8auOXkJE7sWYfcOe53OFuAq7Dz8Xwg4~xBa nVT1Wz3Q5hhV3HZfGwhPznyjzjQTyvo5nPazV7nfT78VncRWTE S~BO3gQQtM3ap1l3nyLbCWjK3dHRKffpeXb8-6wi37TiQ7pRuRrpErQFI2DyyqMQ86umhCiRdyF5-B2L4Id456hCjFB1r3vL3Sl4xtDXAA__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJKNBJ4MJBJNC6NLQ."]

    One of the photo plates in the book contains a 1987 photo of D445’s Colonel Bao.

    Another from the same trip, shows Burstall in conference with Colonel Nguyen Thang Hong (Hai), one-time commander of the VC forces at Long Tan.

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    I've got the Long tan book and the Battle for Coral in storage for a later read what's the jist of Terry Burnstalls "A Soldier Returns" if its a good read will acquire a copy for a latter read.

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    The long and poorly posted link I presented previously before should lead to an on-line copy of "A Soldier Returns".

    I have not yet found my "tree-ware" copy; probably still in the box I stored it in during renovations here.

    Another interesting read is by Frank Palmos; "Ridding the Devils". (1990). It covers his "adventures" in Indonesia during some wild times under Sukharno, and moves to Viet Nam; including being in a VC vehicle ambush, and being the only survivor.

    Link here


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