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    1903 Stock Cross Pins

    Does anyone have a picture of what the 1903 Springfield / Remington stock cross pins look like. I can't seem to locate a picture.

    Thanks in advance Bill
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    You mean the transverse bolts? When they're lying on your work bench? Hope you don't mean the cheap little brass threaded rod...that some have...
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    You mean the transverse bolts? When they're lying on your work bench? Hope you don't mean the cheap little brass threaded rod...that some have...
    I was told they were called cross pin or screws. But transverse works those are the screw type i think I was told the year stock i'm looking for should have PIN's and I just wanted to know what they look like. I find the screw type everywhere.

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    The 1903A1 used two cross bolts, early pre 1908-09 stocks were without cross bolts. production stocks had a single rear cross bolt added in 1908-09 and in 1917 both cross bolts
    were added.

    WW2 contract 19093A3 stocks used cross pins when production started but did not work out well in service usage and later cross bolts were used

    I have a SA "scant " stock from 1941-42 cut for the 1903A1 only and it has cross bolts

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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    I was told the year stock i'm looking for should have PIN's and I just wanted to know what they look like.
    Simple, it's not a "Pin" but a threaded rod that's screwed through a hole slightly smaller that it's own diameter. Then it's cut off and blended. Just a piece of miniature ready rod...see?

    Here's an addendum, posted over on Culvers by our own Parashooter... "The two I extracted from an 03-A3 stock a while back were neither brass nor pins. They were, in fact, steel headless screws. If near enough the surface, check yours with a magnet and let us know if they're brass or steel."
    Last edited by browningautorifle; 06-22-2017 at 10:10 AM.
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCS View Post
    The 1903A1 used two cross bolts, early pre 1908-09 stocks were without cross bolts. production stocks had a single rear cross bolt added in 1908-09 and in 1917 both cross bolts
    were added.

    WW2 contract 19093A3 stocks used cross pins when production started but did not work out well in service usage and later cross bolts were used

    I have a SA "scant " stock from 1941-42 cut for the 1903A1 only and it has cross bolts
    RCS thanks for the info. The more I try and restore this rifle the more confused I seem to get LOL. My reciver is Serial 3301431 with a 10/42 barrel. Rick told me "A correct stock would be a "straight", non-grasping groove with pins, not stock bolts, with an FJA stamp and a high hump handguard without a capsule-shaped fixturing slot on the inside."

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    Jim! Wow thanks for the picture.. excatly waht I was looking for. Now to figure out what I really need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    Now to figure out what I really need
    You could try the smallest steel ready rod or stove bolt you can find. Even metric as no one will measure after. Use a numbered drill bit set so it screws in tight-tight. Then trim and carefully dress the ends, no high speed grind or it will heat and burn the wood at the edges.
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    You could try the smallest steel ready rod or stove bolt you can find. Even metric as no one will measure after. Use a numbered drill bit set so it screws in tight-tight. Then trim and carefully dress the ends, no high speed grind or it will heat and burn the wood at the edges.
    Hi Jim, I got a line on a orginal stock with Pins; all the hardware on it has "R"'s but there is no FJA stamp... other then that its seems to be the right one. "stock isn't cut for a H/G ring "

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Simple, it's not a "Pin" but a threaded rod that's screwed through a hole slightly smaller that it's own diameter. Then it's cut off and blended. Just a piece of miniature ready rod...see?

    Here's an addendum, posted over on Culvers by our own Parashooter... "The two I extracted from an 03-A3 stock a while back were neither brass nor pins. They were, in fact, steel headless screws. If near enough the surface, check yours with a magnet and let us know if they're brass or steel."
    The stock I found has steel pins, I asked the seller to check for me. Thank you again for the help.

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