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    Please explain.

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    As a son of a WWII veteran who also has a brother in-law that went to VN can some one explain what these mongrels are trying on.
    Please guys I am not trying to start a war of words or stir up emotions of the persons that have served their country.
    Myself as a civie gets angry at these people I have watched a fair few vids on these rather pathetic examples of humanity I place then lower than a piece of dog sh*t under a snakes belly in a wheel rut.
    Are they trying to get public acclaim and sympathy also possibly to be a Harvey Wall Banger to the women folk!

    I can really understand the vet's for wanting to get even with these types and if it is a serious federal offence then the police need to be trained up on recognizing a faker.
    I also realize the police are hard pressed so maybe a better solution would be to invest in training up vets and giving them powers to have the fakers brought to justice.
    What can be done to stop the proliferation of these types it seems to be in epidemic proportions.

    Even though I may not be from your country to those that have served in our ADF and all other armed forces that have gone to fight oppression my eternal thanks to you for your sacrifice and that of your comrades in arms.
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    It's always been a problem, except during the RVN crisis...that one was different. Men that don't have the ingredients quickly recognize the acclaim and usually admiration of the ones that quietly did that thing. They want that too...
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    In the U.K. there have, in the past, been one or two individuals who have been caught pretending to be service personnel by wearing army surplus clothing etc and then attempting to collect money for fake service charities. While I haven't heard of this happening recently there have been one or two cases in the news, in the past, where individuals have been, allegedly, caught with significant amounts of money on them and it has been alleged that it has been collected under false pretences.

    Anyone who does something like this is, in my opinion, the lowest of the low and the individual concerned should be taken to an army base where the soldiers have just returned from active service. I'm sure that the soldiers could figure out an appropriate way of dealing with the individual between themselves.

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    These guys in the US always seem to fall into the category of folks with a very low sense of worth to themselves and want to make themselves feel good by putting on a uniform with tons of ribbons and metals. They never worked in the military as a cook, mechanic or clerk. They all were in Delta force, Green Berets, Navy Seals, CIA, etc but they physically appears like they could not complete a standard PT test. There are a few that used the uniform as dodge or hustle to get freebies from the public who do not know better. These guys are usually outed by a real veteran when they see something that does not look right. Once these folks are caught they should be made to do one year's public service attending the graves in a veteran's cemetery so they would probably understand the true sacrifices that the military service has.

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    Veterans in the US do now get a lot of benefits from the public. Discounts at stores, free days at baseball games, etc and they seem to be increasing. A vet isn't going to go hungry on Veterans Day that's for sure, free meals everywhere. So someone could look at that, plus all the attention that goes with it and decide they want it too. I don't know. I think it's more for the attention than for the discounts and free stuff. They have to have valid ID's for that anyway. Frankly, I get a little tired of it on both sides. I read about guys harassing people because they are wearing a uniform jacket, so what, it's always been popular to wear surplus stuff and it's always going to happen. I have and wear military stuff all the time and not all of it is even from the US. It's warm, it's comfortable and its cheap. I keep waiting for someone to harass me about what I'm wearing but not one has. I actually tend to get compliments or thanks and in increasing numbers people coming up to me and grabbing my hand wanting to talk about where we were etc. I'm usually wearing a Desert Storm night camo parka when it's cool enough. I kind of preferred it when people just left me alone I think. Women oddly enough however do seem to like that parka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Men that don't have the ingredients quickly recognize the acclaim and usually admiration of the ones that quietly did that thing. They want that too...
    Good choice of words.

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    Like those who skipped military service and then keep dressing up with military clothes and playing the tough dudes.
    Weak idiots who look at the symbols without understanding that without substance underneath, the resulting character is just grotesque. Those symbols belong to and have sense for those who earned the right to wear them. Others are just pathetical comedians.
    But you can find them everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    In the U.K. there have, in the past, been one or two individuals who have been caught pretending to be service personnel by wearing army surplus clothing etc and then attempting to collect money for fake service charities. While I haven't heard of this happening recently there have been one or two cases in the news, in the past, where individuals have been, allegedly, caught with significant amounts of money on them and it has been alleged that it has been collected under false pretences.

    Anyone who does something like this is, in my opinion, the lowest of the low and the individual concerned should be taken to an army base where the soldiers have just returned from active service. I'm sure that the soldiers could figure out an appropriate way of dealing with the individual between themselves.
    A while ago a sailor was caught impersonating a Navy SEAL. His punishment was to drive the small boats for the SEALS, and do "whatever" they could think up. Sounds like karma to me.....

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    That's a punishment!
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    Sadly we have had a lot in the UKicon, some more challenging then others, but eventually their day arrives in court!!!
    When I spoke with this guy, he said he was in my Company in 2 PARA and a Military Medal holder..............wrong on both counts!! Suffice it to say I am not on his Christmas card list

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