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    The old series 3 were rigged for roll out drops in the early years before the 463L pallet. The rover had the canopy removed and the chutes were in the back. Rover went out backwards. Vehicle was driven in and lashed down to the floor and at drop time it was man powered out with a bit of help from the pilot pulling the nose up. That was all before my time. I had the joy of rigging the series 3 with trailer and load onto a 347 L pallet in the tried and true methods but when we changed to the 110 it did not fly like the series 3 and we lost a few trying out different rigging methods. Back then we used mostly Britishicon style equipment with American compatible rigging methods.
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    Nothing is dropped in the L/R range or any other make without the tops being stripped down first as clearly they would be ripped off within the first few seconds of departing the tailgate.
    No such thing as the old Lightweight 1/4 ton L/R's anymore, as the new ones are so over packed, and many lads place their bergens and other kit on the vehicles before prep work is carried out.
    Slightly different to 50 foot tailgate drops, where they need the kit ASAP on arrival to be ready to go.
    Peter, Loads of Pinz's at Colchester, but as the roll changed at the latter days of Herrick clearly these vehicles never saw "active" service for obvious reasons, that was left to the Jackal and other derivatives to protect the guys from IED's etc
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    BREN valiese

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    I understand that these were used by parachutists during and after WWII. It is shown in a book on Britishicon paratroops. I was told it will take the BREN and No.4/5 rifles.

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    Is the chord so that the soldier can release the weapon when he nears the ground and the weapon lands first yet remains attached to the soldier via the chord?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    the chord
    Lowering rope. It allows the weapon to remain attached but not attached to the man's body. Equipment also is lowered before landing. Landing with equipment can be a pig...and hurt.
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    The unknown factor whether your container was going to stay with you or drop once lowered to 15 foot on the rope, was always the strap which attached to your parachute harness and doubled back on itself to ensure it was a secure attachment.
    Unfortunately, the weight of your container dictated whether the two of you were to part company, and that weight always found the weakest link.
    Often shouts from above as containers went headlong into the deck. It was normally those carrying mortar parts like the base plate or tube or the Charlie G
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Often shouts from above as containers went headlong into the deck.
    Or the odd .30 cal. One time the CO was walking along the edge of the DZ and was shouted at ti stand still. A .30 cal impacted a few yards ahead, the direction he was walking...(Spare parts for Peter)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    It allows the weapon to remain attached but not attached to the man's body.
    Thanks Jim. So presumably the lowering rope is attached to the parachute harness/rigging, not to the soldier, but in such a way to minimise the risk of injury to the soldier?

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    Gil and BAR, you hit the nail right on the head.......... Some of these memories ........... nobody who'd never been on the DZ or landing grounds would even start to understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    the lowering rope is attached to the parachute harness/rigging,
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    nobody who'd never been on the DZ or landing grounds would even start to understand
    And some days it's rainin' gear...helmets, rucksacks, weapons, toboggans...small stuff from the rucksack pouches...
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