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    Identification Help Needed

    Hello,

    This is my first post on this site. I just acquired this piece and there are some very odd characteristics about it: 1. Mannlicher Stock and 2. Very Heavy Barrel

    Mannlicher Stock: As you can see the stock has the proof marks on it but where the pistol grip is, there is no way that it could be a factory stock, given the size of the grip.

    What I find odd about it is that the barrel is very heavy--which makes it seem like an after market, but it has both the Canadianicon and Britishicon proof marks. t

    I took this to my gun guys house to see what he thought, and he is as stumped as I am about it. We couldn't find information in any reference material to figure out where it came from.

    Thanks to anyone who can help out with this.
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    Looks like a heavily bubbered MkIII Ross rifle to me. See the link- Redirect Notice

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    Yep, a Ross that has about nothing left original. Strictly a shooter, if it's serviceable.
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    I hear what your saying and I would tend to agree. Though I would like to know why it has a heavy barrel with Birmingham proof marks. Also why does the stock have a fat pistol grip, (considering that it it wasn't added on to and it's arsenal stamping). Did the government repurpose civilian models? Maybe i am looking for a answer that nobody knows or maybe it was just bubbad. Thanks again.

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    The pistol grip is hashed from it's original form. That's the original stock. The barrel looks to be original too, polished and blue. The BNP was applied when it was released, remember there was an emergency time in about 1940 when "Guns for Great Britainicon" supplied everything you can name for the defense of Britain. Also it could have been held by someone after the war as a trophy and when sold this happened. There's nothing special or magic about that mark...
    Regards, Jim

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    Thank you. That's a huge help. I paid 400 2 of them, for that 0ne and a 1905 sporter with u.s. property marked on the stock. Both function fine. I don't think I for hurt. They both function and shoot fine. The 1910 has a pin so you shouldn't screw up putting the bolt back together. Does the 1905 suffer from the same bolt failure that 1910 does?

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    It's not just incorrect reassembly. It's a matter of lockup as well. If the rifle is in good shape it's fine, if not then don't start with it. I had one and shot it for some time, sold it and it continued hunting for years. I have no idea who owns it now. Probably still goes hunting though.
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    Just do a google image search for Ross MkIII and you'll see plenty of photos of what they looked like originally.

    Some tinkerer in days of yore has had a got at that one, sadly. Reblued it as well.

    Shoot and enjoy.

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