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    New Inland encounter...

    I was shooting at the local Cowboy Action match and was talking with a couple other shooters. M1icon Carbines came up, and another shooter asked about 10 round magazines vs GI 15 round.

    To make a long story short, he said he had a new model Inland that would not feed from 10 round or even 15 round GI. I discussed some of the QC issues they are having, and this lead to him bringing the Inland out.

    I field stripped and sure enough, the bolt lug was peening to the point you could catch the edge of the deformation with your finger nail! The channel in the receiver that the right lug engages, was wearing rounded, and showing a slight bit of peening. The receiver was also a little warped, and the channel that the bolt engages to slide back and forth was wiggly.

    To say he was p*ssed was an understatement. He had less than 300 rounds through it, and had paid high dollar. He bought it recently. He is sending it back.

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    Another satisfied Inland customer. NOT!!! I wish him the best with Inlands oh so wonderful customer service and repair system.

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    You can read this sort of stuff about the new Inland on about any gun forum you want to. You can also read about how they have it corrected, but it doesn't seem so. If one just has to have a commercial copy, Fulton seems to get high-marks, but they will cost about 2X the price of a good USGI shooter. If one has to be had economically, the Universal generation one with a very low serial number is seemingly a good bet and they do turn-up. I have one crammed-full of USGI parts. The only thing non-GI is the barrel and the receiver, which is forged steel to USGI specs., or close enough to it. The informed just should not bite on any "new" commercial. The uninformed that have are learning a serious lesson.

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    Yep! I did not have the heart to tell him what I REALLY thought of the terrible cast receiver he had. It almost looked "out of focus". The channel that the slide lug reciprocated in was so tight, it is no wonder it would not feed.

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    I fairly recently worked on a Plainfield for a friend of a friend. It was/is a nice carbine.
    His left top rail on the trigger housing, where the hammer strikes after fire was chipped out enough that the hammer would lodge forward/partly inside the TH.
    I just put his parts in a GI trigger housing and dumped his cast hammer. Oh.. and I pulled the metal HG and put on a nicely matching GI Hg.
    Now runs 100%, really a nice carbine for a commercial.
    He's the one that swapped me this trooper case for labor.
    I've been thinking about selling off some parts and cases, but prices seem to be down at the time.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    Another satisfied Inland customer. NOT!!! I wish him the best with Inlands oh so wonderful customer service and repair system.
    Good thing they're not being shipped to our GI's in a war zone!

    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by RASelkirk View Post
    Good thing they're not being shipped to our GI's in a war zone!
    Think we could use a back door and ship them to Lil Kim Jong Un?


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    A Plainfield is really the best of the commercial carbines. All parts interchange with USGI parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    A Plainfield is really the best of the commercial carbines. All parts interchange with USGI parts.
    I had a Plainfield in th 1980s that was all USGI except for barrel and receiver. It was awesome.

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    I have an Iver Johnson and a gen-1 Universal that are both USGI compatible and both built on GI spec. single-spring forged steel receivers. Johnson inherited thousands of Universal forged steel receivers after their demise and used them to build carbines. Johnson also inherited the Plainfield leftovers, so a later Johnson is practically a Plainfield/Universal gen-1. The Universal came loaded with a Standard Products T4 trigger housing and a Winchester bolt. The Johnson has a Saginaw T3 trigger housing. I have no idea how long they may shoot, but both the guns are very tight and head-space measurements indicate they have a lot of life in them. I mostly shoot these and leave war-baby in the safe.


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