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    Garand Blow up

    One of our NY shooters preparing for Camp Perry had his rifle blow up.

    Round was a 3 year old reload.

    blow up occurred when trigger was pulled.

    Bent op-rod, Split Bolt - no observable damage to receiver lugs.

    Receiver and barrel was given to CMPicon for a Drill Rifle.

    Safety bridge had a crack visible on the forward face.

    What would fail if the receiver continued to be used assuming parts replaced with serviceable parts.

    I am not suggesting that would be a routine practice - It would be an interesting study in the failure mode of the receiver with this defect.
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    Without a complete study of the whole affair, it would be hard to determine what was damaged and what wasn't. There would have to be x-ray and measurements taken...things aren't safe just because you don't see damage...
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    not trying to understand what was and was not damaged. What I was suggesting was to rebuild (with serviceable parts) and fire remotely to understand the failure mode of a cracked receiver bridge. Definitely not safe - thus the remote firing
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    What I was suggesting was after rebuilding like you suggest, it may last a while and then go off at some undetermined and truly inconvenient time...because of unseen damage.
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    Jim is right... broke once, might be broke forever. Without an interior examination for flaws in the steel, even I would not rebuild and shoot that rifle. And I can assure you I have fired some questionable long guns in my 59 years of shootin'. It just would not be worth the risk, even if you fire it remotely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    What I was suggesting was after rebuilding like you suggest, it may last a while and then go off at some undetermined and truly inconvenient time...because of unseen damage.
    yes - that is what I would be hoping for - to see how it failed - never to fired from the shoulder - sand bagged + 20 feet away behind barrier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark in Rochester View Post
    sand bagged + 20 feet away behind barrier
    So, you'd want a lead sled and about a thousand rds...long lanyard...sometimes when they go it's like a bomb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    So, you'd want a lead sled and about a thousand rds...long lanyard...sometimes when they go it's like a bomb.
    Some thing like that -yes -I have never seen a garand go off like a bomb - I have seen stocks go to tooth pics - have never seen a garand receiver do any thing other than crack. Have any examples? Would be an interesting study

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    No, me either. I avoided breaking them. There have been a few broken guns in my time but nothing spectacular.
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