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    Need advice, PH scope base/rings?

    Hello All,

    Looking to scope this Parker. I don't know much about it, belive it to be from the mid 60s. The Parker has the 98/148 trigger group/housing. Also, the rifle has a heavy barrell and a "M" stamped into the receiver lock / takedown screw.

    I am looking for a new base and 30mm rings to replace the Buehler adjustable base and 1in rings. The base and rings will need to be high for clearance.

    Ive attached some pics.

    Any ideas of what base and 30mm rings would be a good choice? Im not looking for cheapest but a good value and reliable.

    Than you in advance.

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    Welcome to the site.
    It looks like you have a .308 M84 target rifle there in a nice condition.
    You will need to source a set of bases and 30mm rings to suit that will allow most target scopes. They should be easy to locate. Did you have a scope size in mind?
    If you can't find the rings and base Stateside let me know and I can provide several gunsmiths details there who may have a set in stock or Norman Clarkes here in the UKicon.
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    These may help you in your deliberations:
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    The Weaver bases No 45 and No 46 would fit that action, then acquire any 30mm Weaver type ring
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    Also, if anyone can help answer some questions, like..

    -what model this looks like? Im thinking 1200TX but it appears slightly different.
    -what receiver is on the rifle? 98 mauser like action?
    -perhaps where i can tell what year the rifle was made? It is stamped "made in england", etc.
    -the stock does seem stock (ha), and has the original rail for sling screws and recoil pad is original PH.

    Im thinking a rail scope base (weaver, picatinny) would be a good option, but it just depends on what might be available.

    If more pictures would help I can supply.

    Also, i might be willing to part with the Buehler base and rings, they are in great shape and look brand new.

    Sorry for all the questions, I am slightly new to shooting sports but my collection is building pretty quick.

    Kindly,

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    Your Parker Hale has a 1200 action. You would need to tell me the serial number on the left side of receiver as well as the barrel length, muzzle diameter and markings. Bolt handle is typical shape you would see on the 1200TX target rifle.

    As far as scope bases and rings you can go Parker Hale originals ie A22 rear and A28 fronts. Quite often see these on eBay or just ask here and somebody should be able to help you. If you chose to use PH's you need to stick to there rings which you need to purcase in the after market. Height of ring will depend on scope used.

    If you want a rail there are few manufacturers who offer these - Farrell comes to mind but pricey.

    Hope this helps.

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    Judging by the flat handle and the rear scope screws look over sized I would guess it's a 1200tx target.

    If you want a Picatinny rail I would suggest Ken Farrell. I see your from the USAicon, I would strongly suggest contacting them, and send your rifle to them to make a specific base for your rifle because the rear scope screw holes do look like they are over sized.

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    Thanks for the replies and in fact the back screw mounts are larger, something I didnt notice when removing the beuhler mount. Is this why "standard" mauser type mounts dont work on the tx?

    Sad not many options except custom work, or harder to find proprietary solutions. Which is why I was interested in a weaver or pic rail so many more options after that. Perhaps not as elegant, but more cost effective.

    She is going to have to wait a bit now while I can save up to fund some work for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgg_7 View Post
    ...snip.... You would need to tell me the serial number on the left side of receiver ...snip...

    Hope this helps.

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    +1 for Farrell

    Both of your rear holes appear to be enlarged. IIRC the front (rear) one was enlarged to accept a 2BA cap head screw and securely lock the Parker Hale rear sight into place.

    alternatively Redfield "JR" style base (FN 98 Mauser) & rings are available in 30mm from Leupold.


    The whole serial number is unnecessary:
    roughly speaking:

    Early (c.1964?-70??) 1200TX have no letter prefix.
    from c.1970-1980 they gained an "R" prefix (R was definitely used between 1973-76)
    "P" was also used sometime around this date (not sure whether it was before or after "R").
    around 1980-90 they became a "Z" prefix
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    All the 1200TX's on the records are prefixed with either a P or an R but listed in the registers as M82's arrived from Canadaicon or sold as M82's to York Guns. Sadly speaking, the numbering and letters attributed to this era of weapons was a "mess" and not one a great comoany like Parker Hale could be proud of, it caused great constination!!

    Also found the M98 Sniper S/N S-0001 also sold to Y Guns as a BLACK MAMBA now that is a rare beastwhereever that is now!
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