US M1906 Multiball Cartridges

[oldcorps]

I have five rounds of FA (Frankfort Arsenal) 33 (1933) cartridges for the M1903 rifle and am seeking information as to their rarity as these are the only examples I've had. The casing is of the standard brass M1 '06 configuration but in place of a bullet, the cartridges are loaded with two 42 gr. round lead balls, probably for guard use. Any info would be appreciated.

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[RCS]

I have in my collection the early guard loadings with the rings around the case for identification which was later changed to flutes around the case neck. Also have
the Model 1919 Gallery Practice load with a single 140 gr lead bullet which was still in use around defense plants during WW2 despite the lead bullet loading.

Going back in time, the US Army did test a multi ball loading in the 45 Govt revolver cartridge, the 45-70 had guard loadings of multi lead balls up to the WW1 period.
Also have the 30-40 Krag muti ball loading with lead balls.

I think a multi lead ball loading for the 30-06 is not at all common and always the chance that it was made-up by someone other than the military

[green]

US military did not load a rb multiball ctg on 30-06 case according to "History of US Military Small Arms Ammo" HWS the bible on US military ammo.
Sounds like a civvie hand load.

[oldcorps]

Brophy both illustrates, and gives a description of the round that is identical to mine on page 312. I wouldn't waste anyone's time on something other than a factory load. I believe the cartridge is quite scarce but he doesn't go into much detail other than cautioning to not load this type of cartridge in the magazine. Thought I'd had about every type of round for the Springfield but this is a first. Perhaps someone has other examples and some additional background data. Thanks!

[green]

Ctg shown on pg 312 is a 30-03 not 06. HWS says this 30-03 load was discontinued in Dec 1904. Different ctg and era. I stand by my remark.

[browningautorifle]

I wouldn't waste anyone's time on something other than a factory load.

I'm just wondering if we can see them? I know I've loaded round ball into cartridges too...love to see these.

[oldcorps]

The cartridge must have also been made in the '06 case length but given the 1933 headstamp, that's obvious. Wish it were a .30-03. Still seeking reliable information.

[oldcorps]

Sent pix. During my enlisted service we had a double round for the M14 with two projectiles. These were supposed to have been issued but I never came across them although I have met some soldiers who did.

During the early 1960's, brig chasers supervising hard labor prisoners were armed with Model '97 Winchesters with 00 shot and these were about the only equivalent I came across. My guess is that these cartridges served a similar purpose.

[RCS]

The green tip (4th from left) was the M198 that used two (approx.) 84 gr bullets in an effort to double the volume of fire in the M14 rifle. Some combat service but soon gone from service.

Interesting also is the 5th cartridge with the white tip, called low recoil for use in the M14 for small stature people. They took one of the 84 gr bullets from the green tip M198 and used it in the low recoil cartridge. A special modified M14 stock was developed tooAttachment 86707

[browningautorifle]

Here's the pics of the lead ball cartridges...