USS John S McCain Collision

[CINDERS]

We will be pretty right here with our miniscule fleet, once however we did have an aircraft carrier that really did manage to run over a couple of destroyers (USS Voyager & USS Evans) sadly in both instances with heavy loss of life in fact when she was being towed to the scrap yard she broke her tow and was a real dandy of a thing to get re-attached wandering all over the place, showing perhaps greater forces were at work aboard her

[painter777]

Fleet wide training as well as command

previous administration systematically stripped the readiness and ability of our military

Big funding cuts Pre-Jan 2018 had to of affected Training (fewer hours), Personnel Readiness and Maintenance Abilities and etc.
I think about our planes having borrowed parts from other planes to fly. Face it the parts bins are empty.
Very possible our ships are in need also.
Are we now getting a taste of our ships and those trained to operate them, starting to experience the troubles the pilots have been having?

I don't know, but it surely has it's own day to day deadly hazards. I hope whats being reported as better funding helps the current situation.

Again I pray for these souls and their loved ones....... God Bless

Charlie-P777

[Gil Boyd]

Too much reliance on old technology, instead of the MK1 eyeball

[henry r]

I'll put money that at least one of these was caused by someone in the naval vessel playing silly buggers and getting it wrong.

While not a naval vessel, 15 years or so ago i was flying with a friend and we had a supersonic F1-11 cut across out path at right angles about 150m in front of us. (brown shorts moment) My friend had all of his id beacons etc on and had made all of his radio calls so the pilot knew exactly where we were, he was just having fun.

[Gil Boyd]

Easy to apportion armchair critism, and knowing how busy that stretch of the Malacca Straits is, but putting all that aside, it is highly embarassing when a "state of the art" Military anything cocks up due to a lack of professionalism for a fleeting moment.

As the Straits are so conjested, one has to believe look outs were posted. Not just for the numerous amount of really massive cargo ships using the waterway and avoiding their paths, but also the very high likelihood of pirates or terrorists targeting all vessels using it. This photo shows just how far the dome bow breaker entered the port side of the ship, and the most likely cause of death to so many young lives. It must have lifted and tossed the ship 180 degrees with so much force on impact.
Thoughts are with the families, friends and colleagues at this time RIP

[CINDERS]

Makes you wonder how the subs get on its ok if they have the depth of water under their keel but not in the shallows still they are the silent service.

[Gil Boyd]

only when they hit a sandbank when the tides going out it becomes an embarassment, especially if the skipper is in the shower, trusting a nuclear sub to one of his "trained" subordinates to drive the boat

£1bn nuclear sub hit a sandbank as commander was in the shower | Daily Mail Online

[Ovidio]

Now I just read an article speculating that there might be hackers behind the many accidents of these last months........

[RASelkirk]

Now I just read an article speculating that there might be hackers behind the many accidents of these last months........

Regardless of whether or not that is the case here, I feel my country is woefully unprepared for the future as far as "electronic warfare" is concerned. We have no idea what China or 'lil Kim have up their sleeves. Oh, I'm sure there are people in power who think they know...

Russ

[Gil Boyd]

Sadly, like many on this website, who have served in the Military, there is no room for complacency when you are in charge of other peoples lives in operational theatres, whether at Land, Air or Sea.
What this ramming incident shows is exactly that, a sheer lack of judgement and a lacksy daisy atitude to their respective roll in the command chain, in protecting your men first and ship second.
Those who allowed "slack" procedures to be present in any operational role need to be held to account, which I am sure they will.