+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Need help identifying a musket here...

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 12:52 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    18,084
    Local Date
    09-22-2017
    Local Time
    10:14 AM

    Need help identifying a musket here...

    Pictured is a musket in question, touted as an "1816 Betsy Brown Musket" by an acquaintance that has it for sale. He also asks $1800 CDN for it. I need to know what it actually is and what the correct thoughts on price would be. These are his pics but I can get some if you need more detail or closer visuals. I just know that the year marked is seldom anything relating to actual manufacture. Also, the powder flask seems to be nothing special, any idea of the era on it?
    Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	1.jpg‎
Views:	70
Size:	36.2 KB
ID:	86788   Click image for larger version

Name:	2.jpg‎
Views:	67
Size:	32.7 KB
ID:	86789   Click image for larger version

Name:	3.jpg‎
Views:	64
Size:	19.4 KB
ID:	86790   Click image for larger version

Name:	4.jpg‎
Views:	69
Size:	29.3 KB
ID:	86791   Click image for larger version

Name:	5.jpg‎
Views:	67
Size:	22.9 KB
ID:	86792   Click image for larger version

Name:	6.jpg‎
Views:	42
Size:	19.4 KB
ID:	86793   Click image for larger version

Name:	7.jpg‎
Views:	40
Size:	27.0 KB
ID:	86794  

    Click image for larger version

Name:	8.jpg‎
Views:	40
Size:	19.6 KB
ID:	86795   Click image for larger version

Name:	9.jpg‎
Views:	40
Size:	31.5 KB
ID:	86796   Click image for larger version

Name:	10.jpg‎
Views:	37
Size:	15.6 KB
ID:	86797   Click image for larger version

Name:	11.jpg‎
Views:	34
Size:	28.2 KB
ID:	86798   Click image for larger version

Name:	12.jpg‎
Views:	36
Size:	30.9 KB
ID:	86799  
    Regards, Jim

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    No Drill-Tap scope mounts for Mosin Nagant, Mauser K98K, Yugo M48, Swedish M96 and M38, Swiss K31, K11, 1911 and more! Bringing mil-surplus rifles to modern standard without damaging historical values! Over 30 years of experience and expertise go into every Criterion barrel. This experience combined with gun barrel quality steels, our stringent inspections at every process, and Criterion employees' commitment to quality make a Criterion barrel the best choice for your next barrel. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Chuck in Denver ... Buy-Sell-Trade .. Guns, Cars Motorcycles Service Publications - Collectors books that earn their place in your library! Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Canadian Import and Export Services (Click banner ad for more information) Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Advisory Panel tiriaq's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    Today @ 11:00 AM
    Location
    Central Ontario
    Age
    71
    Posts
    796
    Local Date
    09-22-2017
    Local Time
    01:14 PM
    It is not a Britishicon Brown Bess service musket. A service musket made for the Board of Ordnance in 1816 would be an India Pattern (aka Third Model) musket.
    I cannot make out the emblem in front of the cock. It is the sort of musket made for a trading company, like the East India Company.
    I think $1800 is high for a non-British military use musket.
    The powder flask looks to be a perfectly respectable 19th century piece.

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Administrator

    Site Owner
    Badger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Age
    69
    Posts
    11,819
    Local Date
    09-22-2017
    Local Time
    01:14 PM
    Follow Badger On Twitter Add Badger on Facebook Visit Badger's Youtube Channel
    Real Name
    Doug
    My Videos in Video Club
    7
    Here is a 53 pic photo montage of my own 1808 Brown Bess Tower Musket - India Pattern (click here).

    It's all correct and all original parts (no repros). I've owned it for almost 40 years …

    (Click PIC to Enlarge)

    Regards,
    Doug

  6. #4
    Advisory Panel green's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    Today @ 12:51 PM
    Posts
    240
    Local Date
    09-22-2017
    Local Time
    01:14 PM
    Looks like a musket made for the East India Company. It has the rampant lion trade mark of the EIC, London Proof Marks and dated lock characteristic of these arms. Go to Britishicon Militaria Forums for more info.

  7. #5
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 12:52 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    18,084
    Local Date
    09-22-2017
    Local Time
    10:14 AM
    Thread Starter
    Thanks for the early answers men. I'll pass this on to him.
    Regards, Jim

  8. #6
    Moderator
    (Parker Hale Forums)
    Gil Boyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Last On
    Today @ 12:42 PM
    Location
    Home of The Parachute Regiment & 16 Air Assault Brigade
    Posts
    1,959
    Local Date
    09-22-2017
    Local Time
    06:14 PM
    One of Enfield's finest 1816 Type III musket, had the pleasure of shooting one not so long ago, strongly recommend eye wear. The proof mark of a Crown over a V is the London Proof mark I believe on its side

    Last edited by Gil Boyd; 08-25-2017 at 12:49 PM.
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

  9. Thank You to Gil Boyd For This Useful Post:


+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Bridesburg Musket
    By Ben Cartwright in forum Black Powder
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-01-2015, 03:48 PM
  2. Mystery musket.
    By Anzac15 in forum Black Powder
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 01-25-2014, 09:16 PM
  3. Replies: 16
    Last Post: 01-21-2011, 08:46 PM
  4. Winder Musket
    By arado in forum .22 Smallbore
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 11-26-2009, 07:44 PM
  5. need Help Identifying Civil War Musket
    By cdavidson in forum Milsurps General Discussion Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10-12-2009, 02:26 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts