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    Question A rather strange ITHACA

    This gun does not belong to me, I've seen it on the Net, in all honesty as soon as I noticed I thought it was some sort of fake, still I'd love to know the opinions from people more expert than me belonging to this Forum.

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    Be well. Sergio
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    First Ithaca 1911 rolled off the production line in 1943, that serial is from 1914.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RASelkirk View Post
    First Ithaca 1911 rolled off the production line in 1943, that serial is from 1914.
    The slide says 1911 A1 and despite the serial number, the frame has A1 features. Thus Sergio's query I suspect. The patina on the slide and frame suggest the have been together a long time. So uneducated guess; the serial number is miss stamped? We must have an expert on this forum with better information. Best. Tom

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    It sure is a well worn example. I'd still have it...
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    early 1943 Ithaca markings

    Here are some early 1943 Ithaca 1911A1 markings. Note the location of the slide Ithaca stamp

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    Some 1911s were upgraded to 1911a1 status Including machining the finger relief cuts In the frame.

    I would suspect that it might be a wwi frame which has lost its original slide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Enfield View Post
    Some 1911s were upgraded to 1911a1 status Including machining the finger relief cuts In the frame.

    I would suspect that it might be a wwi frame which has lost its original slide.

    As you can see is not only a matter of a strange receiver, the slide has got contrary rollmarks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by colt45acp View Post
    As you can see is not only a matter of a strange receiver, the slide has got contrary rollmarks!
    The front trigger bow of the frame appears to have the Colt VP proof mark
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    That gun is not in the US it is in Thailand. The owner realizes that the frame is not a Ithaca frame, it is a WWII Colt frame that has had the numbers changed according to Thailand law. Ithaca was known to have produced a few slides with the manufacturers name on the opposite side from where it usually is. The gun is, of course, not "correct", but to me it is an interesting gun nonetheless.


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