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    No4 Spike bayonet collection.

    Gent's, I recently bought a collection of No4 Spike bayonets and I would like some advice about values of some of the rarer items please. I am looking to sell some of them at some point; as I wasn't intending to start a collection!
    There is one cruciform Mk1 by singer in excellent condition.
    A Savage MkII with victory plastic scabbard and frog. A couple of No9's. A Canadianicon marked C-broad arrow on spike (electro penciled). One tubular scabbard and another plastic type scabbard. Various frog's.
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    Except for the cruciform, if it is legit, I don't think any of them are particularly valuable. $20 for the spikes and $40 for the #9's. A lot of cruciforms have been faked. Need to see the pointy end to be sure. Cruciforms don't come up for sale often but are listed in the $200-$300 range when they do. Don't always sell for that but sometimes do. The plastic and tubular scabbards will get a premium but I'm not sure how much.

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    Had buckets of them at one time. Around here about,20.00 an up

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    Here are a few photos of the cruciform bayonet. I am sure it's correct; date stamp 41 and SM on underside of release button. G crown R , No4MkI and SM on left side.
    I assume the scabbard would be the standard MkI type for this type?
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    I think the Canadianicon marked one is Longbranch; would that be correct? It has an L stamp and the broad arrow C on the spike. Also a scrubbed serial number on one side and a new number next to the L. Would that be the rifle number? Not seen that on any of the other spikes. This one also came in the plastic scabbard; would that be correct?
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    Cruciform "looks" ok but that's a bad angle. Need a direct straight shot of the "blade" from the side showing the length and the tip. Tip should be heavy, more rounded, not a sharp angle point. Blade should be the same length as a non-cruciform. Two ways to fake these. One was to just put the cruciform on the spike leaving it the same length which makes the tip look thin. The second is to put the cruciform on the spike and shorten it so the tip is heavy.

    Spikes were put into whatever scabbard was available.

    A Longbranch marking is an L with a B sitting inside it. Not sure what that is you have.

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    Here's a couple of extra photos as requested. I've added the Savage No4 MkII spike for comparison.
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    Thanks for your help!

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    My No.4 cruciform hopefully it is a legitimate one.

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    Some of the fake Mk1 cruciform bayonets are so obviously fakes it's amazing that anyone gets fooled by some of the offerings available. If what is being touted as a No4 MK1 cruciform bayonet says "No4 mkII" on the socket then it probably is a fake, for obvious reasons. If the cruciform profile looks as if it's been ground/cut to shape with an angle grinder then it probably has.

    The nice example that CINERS has posted pictures of, post 7, is a good example of what the real deal, legitimate No4 mk1 bayonet should look like. Notice the perfectly formed/ground cruciform shape and the way that the profile gently eases away through the perfect radius, as the cruciform profile approaches the socket.

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    I agree the cruciform blade is correct. The one suggested isn't a Long Branch. The rest aren't a collection just examples. They aren't particularly valuable.
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