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    A.M.P Machine

    This is why I purchased an Always Perfect Annealing machine for reloading this effort is from Sunday 08/10/2017 with my wife & self shooting our bolt guns.
    Most of our Lapua brass is 5-6 years old I do not keep detailed records on each reload just keep an eye on the necks for splits and loose primer pockets but to say they were work hardened is an understatement considering my wife requests her cases are always FLS'ed I just neck & body die my stuff and then TTL all the cases hers included.
    Top is my 6.5 x 284 bottom is wife's 308 Palmer brass cooling off after all being annealed just out of the tumbler and ready for the next 5 -6 more processes to complete them as I am supposedly semi retired I get to load all the ammo...........

    We both shot 700M I sadly had some reloads mixed up only 2 rounds but that was enough to drop in 2 x 3's very low in the very first application.
    No use getting wound up it happened and the usual WTF moment but got plenty of ribbing afterwards for the under shoots.

    We then had 2 goes at 1000yd Bench rest which we all enjoy shooting teaches you to read the conditions it is good if you get a switch in your 6 minute sighting period to know where to hold if it does it to you on your 5 scoring shots as the monitor is turned away from you so unsighted shooting.

    The smallest group of the day for the C-C 5 shots was 82.5mm (Brett Bunyan) we were using electronics so it does not officially count but will stand as a range record not bad.
    I also learnt that out F-open team took out the World Championship in Canadaicon just recently for the 2nd year running not bad for an island that floats around separated from the rest of the world.

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    So Cinders, The annealing appears to be very regular. How does the machine function? Do you put a load of cases in at one time or is it one by one? Please explain !

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    Hi 30Three;
    What I have found prior to getting the annealer tried it by hand & eye but erratic results takes only a fraction to over cook the brass thus in a way ruining it.
    It all came down to neck tension consistencies assizing the brass and in seating the projectile you could detect the variations in the force required to size or to seat the projectile some would size (I use dry neck lube Redding.) or seat easily others you could feel more resistance these factors are crucial to accuracy.
    Also noted the amount of split necks from constant firings and sizings not a great deal but enough to be troublesome think my wife was losing 1-2 per month myself about 1 month the brass looking end on to the neck you could see that it was almost like silver the brass was that hardf after annealing the dull brassy colour returned.
    There was a marked difference in the feel with the way the sizing dies worked on the brass it was a whole lot easier for the expander ball to go through the neck on the up stroke and just thye way the brass was worked by the die just heaps easier, but the real bonus was the bullet seating the projies just glided in with the same feel in the operation of the seating every time not tighty/loosy anymore.
    The proof was in my first outing with annealed brass shooting a 60.9 and a 60.6 at 700M 120.15/120.20 it works as this system you use specific pilots for your type of cartridge it uses the usual lee shell holders and 4 programs for what ever brass you have.

    It uses a induction coil to heat the brass case the neck, shoulder and part of the body when annealing, the time that the case is in there depends on the brand, caliber and whether you neck turn your cases the code is directly related to that brass.
    You have a aluminium pilot which in the pic are those in plastic thread protectors you take them out of them for the caliber/brass manufacturer your annealing punch in the specific code place it in the shell holder which is held by the brass gripper plonk the case in the holder insert vertically into the pilot then hit start 5-6 seconds later lift the holder out and tip the case out then repeat but do not touch the case as you will quickly burn your fingers......it hurts numptee me found this bit out...........
    It gives you the codes for no neck turned, 1 thou turned, 2 thou turned & 3 thou turned as the brass being thinner does not require the same amount of heat put into it to regain the ductileness they have an extensive list of calibers & brass on their web page.
    If you do allot of shooting reloading then this machine is the go you do not have to do it every time I just do it as part of the process of reloading it is one at a time but they are (code depending) in there for 5-6 seconds max.
    The 6.5 x 284 Lapua uses the code 120 where as the Palmer 308 brass uses code 76 which translates the 308 brass is given less time in there, the time (code) is based on the brinell harness tests they performed in the lab to get the best results for the particular brand of brass that one uses.
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    Here's a link to a nice video showing how the machine operates. - Bob

    https://www.ampannealing.com/

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    That looks like a really great piece of kit. They've obviously done a lot of research to get it right.
    Thanks for the explanation and video

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