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    Thank you for the interesting reply, Muffett!

    Yes, Does appear to have come Full circle. I had not found any info on Peddie, and very little on the sight. As you say, I now see similarities to the Sutherland.
    Thanks for the idea on the value as well. Very kind of you.

    Question if I may;
    How in hades do you use the peep aperture on this sight?? As in, how do you even See through that tiny pin-hole when it's half way down the barrel?
    Do you know if it was used with a different type of fore-sight?
    Of course, if I clag it on the rifle some of this may be self explanatory..

    Thanks again Muffett and happy New Year!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Hare View Post
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    I would use the rear sight off the original barrel, (sight base is present) but it requires a taller rear sight and likely had the windage adjustable CLLE sight which Is taller then the standard sight cap. With standard sight cap I need 500 yd. elevation to hit on at 100 yards. (Trying close to Mk V11 ammo, but understand Mk V1 was the ammo at the time)
    Don't really Need a target sight, but would like to try

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    Due to "barrel harmonics" ,the vibration of the barrel when fired in a rifle sighted for MkVI ammo needs 600 yds elevation to hit POA at 100 yds when using MkVII ammo. Nothing to do with trajectory but depends on when the the bullet leaves the muzzle if the barrel is vibrating up or down. This discussed in "Textbook of Smallarms 1929" pg 53-7.

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    How do you use a tiny peep site mounted half way down the barrel? With great difficulty.
    Seemed to be a fad at the time. As well as the Sutherland MkII sight the US M1905 sight had the same tiny aperture on the M1903 rifle.

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    Thanks for the reply and information, Green.

    It's a while since I tried this rifle, so it may have been 600 to hit POA at 100. If I try the Peddie, I'll need a notebook for figuring sight settings for sure.
    I'd rather use the 215 gr bullet, but flat -based 174 -180 are a Lot easier to find.

    Good to know about that tiny aperture as well! With my older eyes, the aperture looks oval anyway.....
    Will keep you posted re. how we get on with the Peddie.

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    Hands across the sea from the USAicon. This is a HathiTrus.org permanent link [their words not mine, if it fails word search using the below listed info] https://hdl.handle.net/2027/mdp.39015084574212 to Engineering Volume 88 in which are two articles mentioning Peddie sights [Photo to be found on Engineering page 78 Hathi page 150; pagination is different between the two]. The second article on Engineering Pages 751 & 752 [Hathi pages 911 & 912] styles itself "Engineering v.88 July-Dec. 1909. Dec. 3, 1909- ENGINEERING. THE PEDDIE-CALICHIOPULO SIGHTS FOR SMALL ARMS AND MACHINE-GUNS." and is the more interesting; it goes into pretty good pictorial detail as to how this sight system worked. No idea on the value on your sight. However, Peddie obtained both Britishicon and American patents on an aperture front sight quite derivative of the CALICHIOPULO SIGHT, and there was the Marble's V-M [Vickers-Maxim] aperture front sight that was somewhat popular from ~1915-~1945 from which time scopes ruled the earth. Lot of cross-pollination goin on there.
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    The Springfield similarly used a tiny aperture halfway down the barrel, so it was a [wrong] idea which had some acceptance at the time.

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