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    Your grand is worth about 800 an up. Rack grades are starting at 700.00. Carcano is worth about 150 up. K98icon with mismatch bolt about 350.00 up. These are the average prices I see. These rifles are what I would call shooter grade not collector. Meaning nice looking correct military an safe. Not all matching numbers. Trade a k98 for carcano yes. not an M1icon..Just my honest opinion

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    If I had to put a number on the Mauser, and assuming the stock matches, I'd call it a $800.00 rifle. Most Russianicon Capture Mausers are bringing $500.00 now. A Garandicon in service grade type condition is a solid $800.00 to $900.00 rifle in my opinion. Caracano's are easy to find for $150.00 every day, so that one is pretty even up.

    The days of $300.00 K98kicon Mausers are fleeting, and honestly long gone. I'd buy every bolt mismatch K98k Mauser that isn't a Russian Capture for $350.00 every day all day long.

    If you can get someone to trade a K98k for a Caracano even up all I can say is good job. Anyone who knows anything about collectible rifles is never going to do a trade like that, EVER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorBurn View Post
    If I had to put a number on the Mauser, and assuming the stock matches, I'd call it a $800.00 rifle. Most Russianicon Capture Mausers are bringing $500.00 now. A Garandicon in service grade type condition is a solid $800.00 to $900.00 rifle in my opinion. Caracano's are easy to find for $150.00 every day, so that one is pretty even up.

    The days of $300.00 K98kicon Mausers are fleeting, and honestly long gone. I'd buy every bolt mismatch K98k Mauser that isn't a Russian Capture for $350.00 every day all day long.

    If you can get someone to trade a K98k for a Caracano even up all I can say is good job. Anyone who knows anything about collectible rifles is never going to do a trade like that, EVER!

    Not sure where that 350 dollar K98 mismatch number comes from. Not in this decade, I know that much. I bought an RC and sold it recently for 600, Ive seen nicer RCs sell for 800 even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoisprettycool View Post
    Not sure where that 350 dollar K98icon mismatch number comes from. Not in this decade, I know that much. I bought an RC and sold it recently for 600, Ive seen nicer RCs sell for 800 even.
    I take it you missed the post above mine that I was replying to. Below is what the person above me posted.

    Quote Originally Posted by mmppres View Post
    ...K98 with mismatch bolt about 350.00 up. These are the average prices I see. Trade a k98 for carcano yes. not an M1icon..Just my honest opinion

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    No I had seen your post, I was sort of replying to both of you. I've seen forum posts from 2010 on here saying that even a mismatch bolt K98icon, non import, was still worth close to $1000. In 2010... years later, and we all know that Milsurps have exploded in value. Russianicon Captures have been selling for 700-800 regularly. And while Gunbroker/Armlists is a bit off in terms of the auction setting; they are, for all intensive purposes, the stock market for firearms. We have no other benchmark than those, and it seems like most of the responses this thread have received are hinged upon opinion/speculation. People's opinions don't always correlate with the market. When there are people willing to pay these prices, the firearms are worth that price. But that's just IMHO . Honestly I'm pretty split here, I think the issue is I went into this thinking already it would be a good deal. I mean, I just don't see K98s locally anymore. Let alone non-import, non-capture, and at least mostly matching. I've actually NEVER seen any kind of partly matching K98s locally in recent years. I see Garands all the time.

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    Also, I want to clarify one last time. I should have been more clear in the beginning, but I digress: I am giving him a Carcano and the M1icon Garand. He is giving me the K98, sling, ammo, some AR parts, and other misc. stuff. He has sent pictures of the bolt and other disassembled parts. Apparently the bolt partly matches itself, and some of the numbers on the bolt matches the floor plate (Which is also non matching evidently...) Overall, everything looks quite nice but the bolt is the only thing that leaves myself some concern. However, from what I have seen, if his K98 had all matching parts it would be worth easily up to $1500 to $2000. Does a non matching bolt and floor plate really take that much away from it? (Happy New Year btw!)
    I mean, my Garand isn't matching. Matter of fact, not a single part matches.

    ---------- Post added at 10:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:04 PM ----------

    Also the barrel code is G2434. Is that supposed to match the rest of the rifle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoisprettycool View Post
    the K98icon, sling, ammo, some AR parts, and other misc. stuff.
    All of that matters...like, exactly how much 8mm is involved and what is it? That crap is expensive, even the brass is expensive.
    Regards, Jim

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    Oh it's only 60 rounds, plus 4 stripper clips. A few AR hex mags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoisprettycool View Post
    only 60 rounds
    That's not much, AR mags can be had. If you're happy though...
    Regards, Jim

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    Personally I think you are getting the short end of the stick by a long shot. A mismatched bolt equals a mismatched rifle. $600-$800 is about right for the K98icon. M38 Carcanos in decent shape are at $200-$300 now, hard to believe but true. Can still get them for less but getting hard. Garands are $800-$1000 in shooter grade. Privi makes 8mm ammo for about $20 a box. Everything depends on condition.

    Looking to the future is where you need to make the big decision. K98's are rising and likely to continue as they aren't making any more and the sources seem to have dried up. Garands seem to have stagnated and there are thousands of them sitting in Korea waiting to be shipped back to the CMPicon which could happen at any time and they are making new ones or similar ones with the M14icon's coming out of Springfield. Will price crash? Probably not but I expect they will not rise and might decrease somewhat. Carcanos probably won't do much of anything in either direction. But that's the future, not today. I think there are better deals out there to be made now.
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    I would pass what's the sense in trading a nice M1icon for a mismatched K98icon? The gun will never be right as far in a collector standpoint. Sorry to the guys that collect these mismatched guns but that's what they are.

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