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    making a usuable 4T, I need help!please

    Hi gents,
    Finally, after 5 years of long wait, I started to fit a repro bracket with a n°32 MkI.
    I read, read again, and drunk a lot of whisky as described in the nice documentation written by Mr Laidlericon. I'm sticking to any step described, and everything was going well until the fitting of the rear pad. When I aim a DAP at 250 yards through the barrel and set the drum to 250 yards on the scope, the grat on the DAP, my rear pad is positioned as follow ...
    I measured the pad, the bracket, the size shows some minor differences with the blueprint, but not at a point to get so much gap. What did I not do? what should I do to correct this, if possible..
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    1. is your scope optically centred?
    2. your front pad is too high (assuming that your scope is optically centred)
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    If I read it correctly Lou, you are saying that there is too much gap between the rear pad and the body. - that we can see on the photo. I suspect that you have not collimated or rotated the telescope to get the tip of the pointer , the optical axis of the telescope aligned with the mechanical axis of the telescope.

    Or, alternatively - or both - you need to swing the rear of the telescope to the right so that the rear of the bracket sits closer to the rifle. You can do this by carefully filing the inside rear of the front pad to swing the bracket to the right at the rear.

    You really should be doing this work with the rifle stripped down. It will be much easier!

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    Seems to need some careful filing to make the two fit properly.

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    The pad is above the side of the receiver. Filing for fit is still off in the future.

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    Where do you buy the bracket/ pads?
    When I made my repro T i have a simular problem.
    It endet up with I have to make a new front pad.
    I was 1,6 mm too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Enfield View Post
    1. is your scope optically centred?
    2. your front pad is too high (assuming that your scope is optically centred)
    1. Yes, this is the first thing I did.
    2. I measure 0.02 inch of difference in between the dimensions described in the blueprint and my actual pad, if I'm correct of course, 0.89 inch Vs 0.87 inch (bottom of the front pad and the center of the thread)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    If I read it correctly Lou, you are saying that there is too much gap between the rear pad and the body. - that we can see on the photo. I suspect that you have not collimated or rotated the telescope to get the tip of the pointer , the optical axis of the telescope aligned with the mechanical axis of the telescope.

    Or, alternatively - or both - you need to swing the rear of the telescope to the right so that the rear of the bracket sits closer to the rifle. You can do this by carefully filing the inside rear of the front pad to swing the bracket to the right at the rear.

    You really should be doing this work with the rifle stripped down. It will be much easier!
    I guess that my scope is collimated, https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=48787&page=2, first thing I did, according to your article.
    My problem, is that for me, the rear pad is to high on the body if I want to get the grat on the DAP at 250 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsne View Post
    Where do you buy the bracket/ pads?
    When I made my repro T i have a simular problem.
    It endet up with I have to make a new front pad.
    I was 1,6 mm too high.

    Jsne
    I bought it to Accumounts. When I received the pads, I measured it and compared, there was not that much diffrences. But anyhow, I've an abnormal situation.

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    The situation you have is very common with the accumounts. In this situation I usually machine a shoe that packs you off the body like your shim does, except it also gives you a register to the shelf below. Once drilled and tapped and soldered in situ you can file or mill off most of the excess material above the receiver.
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    It's seems that my front pad is the faulty part. Can somebody measure the following lengthes, the yellow and the red,please.

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    This happens with all the Accumout and all the Sarco mounts and brackets. Mostly the pads from Fultons are better, but it depends a lot on the bracket you are mating it to too.

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