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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Graham Rose and Jimmie Storrie..............JALO Oasis 1941 didnt know the photo was being taken! This image will confirm that the weapons they used were issued only.
    Maybe not.....

    That looks very much like a Colt New Service revolver in his hands, which was a WW1 Britishicon issue, but in .455 Webley calibre.....whereas the US and Canadianicon post WW1 issue Colt New Service revolvers were usually in .45ACP calibre, and I would think .45ACP ammo supply (same as the Thompson) was more readily available than old .455 Webley, so I suspect that Colt may not have been a WW1 era British issue and was thus acquired by 'other' means....???

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    Yes some sleeping General probably
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Yes some sleeping General probably
    Probably wasn't even sleeping............

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    The predominately West Country boys of 43rd Recce were very proud of the fact that they finished the war with a significantly greater number of Jeeps than they went over to Normandy with 9 months earlier

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
    Maybe not.....

    That looks very much like a Colt New Service revolver in his hands, which was a WW1 Britishicon issue, but in .455 Webley calibre.....whereas the US and Canadianicon post WW1 issue Colt New Service revolvers were usually in .45ACP calibre, and I would think .45ACP ammo supply (same as the Thompson) was more readily available than old .455 Webley, so I suspect that Colt may not have been a WW1 era British issue and was thus acquired by 'other' means....???
    It's not a Colt.

    Issued Canadian New Service revolvers were a mix of .455 and .45 "Long" Colt, not .45acp. This is true both for military and rnwmp/rcmp police purchased New Service revolvers.

    The illustrated revolver is actually a Smith & Wesson, either a 455 Second Model Hand Ejector or (less likely) 45acp M.1917

    The give away should be that the .455 barrel is 6-1/2" while the .45acp barrel is 5-1/2"

    The gun in this photo looks out of proportion so i'm not 100% committed to either model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Mike,
    Coming back to the thrust of this thread, one can see the Sacred Sqn on the greek islands and the weapons they had cobbled together.
    Schmeiser/Thompson/Carbine and the old trusted horse the bren. Nice photo
    And an M1icon carbine closest to the wall.
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    Lee Enfield,
    I should have confirmed it was a S&W earlier, my apologies, as thats what it was. Jimmie reckons it was issued to him, just found my notes from when I interviewed him, and it stayed with him throughout, it was issued, which no doubt starts another trail of weapons issued to men in the early days.
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