Dumbest Bayonet Ever

[RCS]

My photo shows a Springfield 1903 rod bayoneyt and the Model 1905 bayonet.

The rod bayonet was also used on some late Springfield trap door rifle in 45-70 too

The Johnson rifle barrel could not support any type of "normal" bayonet and had to
use something that keep the rifle in operationAttachment 90528

[Aragorn243]

Never imagined this thread would go in this direction but I felt compelled to learn about the Johnson rifle because of it. Now unfortunately, I want one and can't afford one. As for the bayonet, it is said to be an afterthought and is so light because the added weight could prevent the barrel from having enough oomph to cycle the next round.

[rice 123]

the trowel bayonet for the 1873 trapdoor

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

Ok not a bayonet but seems dumb. Can anyone identify the problem with this one.

[CINDERS]

Just guessing looks like a No.7 or 9 blade modified BWAG

[browningautorifle]

Now unfortunately, I want one and can't afford one.

When I had one, it was about $175 and I bought a second for spares at $125 CDN. That was in about 1986... No other bayonet could have been used, the 1905 was attempted but caused problems. I was happy to have had one and then passed it on, wish it had been worth $4000-6000CDN when I sold mine though...

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

Just guessing looks like a No.7 or 9 blade modified BWAG

Actually it is a German Red Cross Hewer presumably modified from the "screwdriver" point it was made with to the "bowie" point by an enterprising GI.
Which unfortunately ruined the value.
The dumb part is why a blunt tipped saw back dress dagger?

[fjruple]

The Johnson bayonet in and of itself does not look bad. Perhaps simply the concept of putting it on a recoiling barrel.

Unfortunately the US Ordnance Department has a military specification for a bayonet on its combat rifles. It does not have to look pretty but it must work. Having started my military career in the twilight age of the wood and steel rifle. It was practical to have a bayonet on a rifle especially in hand to hand combat where you can also butt stroke your opponent. Today try that with an M16 rifle you will have a one shot two piece rifle.

[browningautorifle]

Now days the general use of bayonets is handling prisoners and CQB. Your rifle only packs it in when you're really, really close...trust me Then you don't care about smashing the butt off and the bayonet is close enough to be practical. Besides there'll probably be another close by at that point.

[Eaglelord17]

Don't forget alternative uses such as wire prodding, land mine searching, etc. Bayonets are useful for more than just stabbing others.