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    Gil, it was pretty sympathetic deact work. Very little weld to be honest. The receiver and chamber was drilled through and a hardened pin welded in and the barrel had been slotted under the handguards. The gas piston had been shortened slightly and the bolt face ground at an angle as usual. All parts working apart from the obvious. Later examples I've seen were much more heavily butchered with no piston or even gas tube, etc and as you say full of weld.
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    Nice example Kev. As I understand it procurement was stopped at 100,000 as FN refused to let West Germanyicon licence manufacture the Fal.

    Hence the Germans switch to the G3 ... The Spanish had no such licencing issues and cashed in!

    Lovely looking example by the way, is that an L1A1 sand cut bolt Carrier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    It certainly was odd to see a gang of civvies walking down the road holding the rifles aloft.
    That would look strange indeed...if you were where I think you were. (Grammar school area)
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    But surely there's nothing to prevent you giving it away to someone, as-is, without allowing them to own it as such. Where there's a will, there's a way and a legal way to boot..........

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    Current regs effectively grandfather anything pre April 2016 Peter.

    No selling, giving etc, only if its welded into a solid lump and resubmitted to the PH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buccaneer View Post
    The answer is absolutely nothing unless it has been brought up to the new quite ridiculous EU specification and then resubmitted to the proof house. If this has not been done it is ILLEGAL to sell or even give it away, but you are allowed to keep it until you die....... then it becomes illegal even to leave it in your will unless the aforementioned is complied with.
    I live in Franceicon and am a regular shooter. My next acquisition will be a live fire semi auto L1A1. However, I find all this discussion about EU directives for de acts very interesting. I have seen many at arms fairs here in France since this came in in the UKicon and have not seen a sign of the measures. Field stripping and removable of barrels etc. are the norm. Barrels are blocked at the breech with a welded plug but with the rifling remaining untouched. What is deactivated, by cutting the feed lips, is the magazine which is treated as a restricted item. On the matter of L1A1s. those available in France at the moment all seem to be in excellent to as new condition and are said to come from storage in the Falkland Islands. Does any one know the truth of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morison29 View Post
    I live in Franceicon and am a regular shooter. My next acquisition will be a live fire semi auto L1A1. However, I find all this discussion about EU directives for de acts very interesting. I have seen many at arms fairs here in France since this came in in the UKicon and have not seen a sign of the measures. Field stripping and removable of barrels etc. are the norm. Barrels are blocked at the breech with a welded plug but with the rifling remaining untouched. What is deactivated, by cutting the feed lips, is the magazine which is treated as a restricted item. On the matter of L1A1s. those available in France at the moment all seem to be in excellent to as new condition and are said to come from storage in the Falkland Islands. Does any one know the truth of it?
    Storage in the Falkland islands you say ... I would take that with a pinch of salt. The FIDF sold off their L1's in the late 80's (or early 90's) and replaced them with Steyr AUG's. So very long gone ... I believe they were all imported into the UK and virtually all deactivated.

    If these rifles are in excellent condition, then they are probably ex UK war reserve pieces, or they have been refurbished by a company like LuxDefTec. I hear a number of ex War reserve L1's are still stored with dealers in Holland.
    Very interested to see were they are being proofed, that might give us an idea...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Payneicon View Post
    Well, any dealers offering these things for sale are risking everything if they don't have the current paperwork. I would hope everyone does now.
    Roger

    The G1 in question is listed under the following section of D&B's website:

    In this Category are Pre EU/UKicon Specification Deactivated Guns. These are available for sale to Customers outside of the European Union, including the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, Museums in the EU that have the Correct Authority, and for Short Term Film and Theatre Hire within the UK.

    Please note: You will need to contact us by email or phone to organise purchase or hire of these items.

    Any gun in this category can be re-deactivated to the current EU/ UK spec for £75 extra, for sale in the EU.

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    I suppose the Short Term Film and Theatre Hire within the UKicon, is covered by their Sec5 authority.

    Ridiculous really, full Sec 5 measures for totally inert deactivated firearms...

    Whatever next!

    You have to love the good folks if the Channel Islands and Isle of Man, they tell the Government and the EU to sod off if legislation dosen't SUIT them. Good for them and long may their independence flourish!

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