Fazakerly Sniper?

[CINDERS]

It is a simple request really and not one that is hard to do by the seller takes 5 seconds to put the days paper next to it and happy snap it, your not implying anything its just verification for yourself with no malice or intent.

[amadeus76]

Exactly... I even apologized for asking. It seemed too good to be true from the beginning. Between the price asked, no city name given in the state he 'resides' in, poor grammar, doesn't supply specific photos requested (receiver, showing the markings), and now refuses to take a verification photo; I'm gonna go a head and call scam.

It's disappointing, but since I long ago gave up on the idea of getting my hands on a legitimate 'T' it's not a huge deal... If someone ever comes out with a good reproduction scope I'll probably sacrifice one of my No.4's to make a faux 'T' like I did for my 1903aFaux.

[CINDERS]

Just keep track of it with perhaps the details of where it was found (Web site) so others can be fore warned, if some one is selling something and they get a prospective buyer then a verification snap would not be an issue, also them not willing to supply a location also gets the ears pricked up.
Anyway all's well one will happen along one day for you bloke.

[amadeus76]

It was on Armslist... I'm gonna report them as a scam, just haven't gotten around to it yet.

[Seaforth72]

Not accusing that seller of anything, but it might help to know the "sellers's" ID on Armslist in case anyone wishes to contact him about this rifle or is offered any other great items at less than half the value by this same seller. For an unknown reason about 300 records vanished overnight from my database leaving only about 1500.
:-(
The record on that rifle No. 4 MK. I (T) X33343 was one of them. As I recall it sold or at least was listed for sale at about $4,000 about a year ago. Being offered at $1,600 is a case of "too good to be true" in all likelihood.

I have been burned by a "seller" Gerald Gallipoli in Quebec on a web site for gun owners. Money was sent and suddenly all communications stopped and no rifle showed up. I informed the Royal Canadian Mounted Police who showed no interest in the latter until I told them that he had a copy of my firearms licence and might try to use it to fraudulently obtain firearms.

[CINDERS]

What was the outcome of that case Seaforth! Any resolution happen, but I guess you did your dosh.

[amadeus76]

The guys email is gregann.roy@aol.com

The record on that rifle No. 4 MK. I (T) X33343 was one of them. As I recall it sold or at least was listed for sale at about $4,000 about a year ago. Being offered at $1,600 is a case of "too good to be true" in all likelihood.

That pretty much confirms it as a scam. He implied he'd had it since the 60's...

[Roy W]

It was actually for sale at $1250 US, not $1600

[Seaforth72]

Cinders - in my case, no resolution unfortunately. It was NOT on the Canadian Gun Nutz (CGN) web site which I have been very happy with.

[AD-4NA]

Glad you did not send money, yes it is a common scam I sort of guessed you were talking about another armslist gem from the beginning. Unfortunately wire fraud scammers now have caught on that some enfields are worth quite a bit of money, and therefore worth targeting people with. Basically any milsurp on armslist that is a rare variation is now a scam even if it seems to be priced appropriately, because they have caught on about suspicion over listings with insanely low prices.

AND, armslist won't even do anything about flagging the listings, much less the police. Personally it is very frustrating because we all collectively could hand the police every one of these scammers on a plate with a ready made case if they were willing to do the work or not require us to have sent our own money. Also, I doubt that any of these guys are up to only a few minor armslist scams which would make it even more satisfying and legally a slam dunk.

Unfortunately for all of us, basically everyone including the oldtimers has caught on to the prices of collectables even in out of the way places or hole in the shops that look they might not even have heard of the internet and knows what they are worth nowadays, so "they just might not know" is a lot more rare. Fortunately that might not extend to rare variations down to small markings or shops with attitudes about "those junky old enfields".

Seaforth, your database may now be the most useful tool for vetting these sales if they get past the reverse image auction search. like the above, if you see in your database that the SN is already in the hands of a collector who knows what they have there is no way they are going to let it go for fractions of pennies on the dollar to someone they don't even know.

There should almost be some sort of sticky about this for new collectors or those new to the forums of the American persuasion.