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    Salt Flat, cheers I have not had much luck looking online for these bits but frankly I would not know where to look anyway haha.

    Its all good Ovidio, there is no rush.

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    Here a few pictures.
    I checked the bands now, and they are all different.
    Nosecap also. The Brazilianicon has the hook on it.
    Even the rear sight ladder is different.
    No luck here...
    Sorry for the poor quality of the pictures, but I have bad light up where I keep my stuff.
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Very nice looking rifles Ovidio, I appreciate you sharing them. I see the 7mm is one of the longer rifles. The butt-plates also seem to be different. My question with the sight ladders is whether the 7mm is a pin type ladder because while looking for parts certain sellers distinguished that they were which made me think there was another kind. I also notice the Handguard difference too.

    I really need to learn more about these rifles.

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    Do you need some measures for the ladders? Or better details. I’m home today and can take care of it
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Here a few more pictures, now with good light.
    Being sick as a dog has sometimes a positive side
    The width of the ladders, internal as well as external, seems to be the same, but the length is different and the scale also.
    Apart from that, also the cursor is different, and the fixing.
    I really don't think you can use any of them in the other rifle with some sort of success.
    The band is completely different as well. Dimensions and style.
    All in all, two completely different rifles.
    I had a glimpse of a short Brazilianicon Mauser some time ago, but, I really don't know how similar or different that might be from a K98icon, so I went searching a bit.
    Some more info about the 1908 model can be found here: - Maccioni, pagine personali
    It is an Italianicon collector, but the interesting part are the pictures.
    Here you can see lots of pictures of the 1935 model, the shorter one. This looks much more like a K98: Gun Store Bunker, , Fucile Mauser mod. 1935 Brasile cal. 7x57mm Mauser - Gun Store Bunker
    I guess the forward sling band seems to be like the K98 ones for what concerns the dimensions, but it shows a sling swivel, which the K98's does not have.
    Similar issue with the sights. They are identical in the looks, the cursor is the same, but they are fixed like on the long one, not like on the K98. I can not tell if they are dimensionally correct and if the scale is right.
    All in all, I think the two rifles are just too different to swap any parts.
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Maybe someone would help get these things to you. If you were nearby it wouldn't be a problem, I'd just go to the USPS

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    Ovidio thank yo u so much for taking the time to get all those pictures and compare parts. I hope I can make up for this all one day. I think the best idea, like you have said, is stick with the Brazillian only parts as there are so many small differences, and well I don't want to half-arse it. You have saved me a lot of time and effort trying to get my hands on examples like your's for comparison. Also they are both very nice looking rifles.

    I'm working on it Doco. Thanks.

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    Hi nijalninja, don't worry.
    It has been a pleasure taking such a good look at them after a long time.
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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