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    With thanks to Advisory Panelicon member Roger Payneicon, a new article has been added to the Technical Articles for Milsurp Collectors and Re-loaders (click here)

    "Great War British & Empire Sniping Equipment" by Roger Payne (click here)

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    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

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    Cheers Doug. I hope people manage to get to the end of it without losing the will to live.............!!

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    What a great article! While not having read everything fully, I am already highly pleased with what I had yet read. The only poor thing is the pictures being black/white colour. While Roger had posted them in colour on the board here too, I wish in this article they would also had been this way!

    PS: In Germanicon "Sniper" can be translated as "Scharfschütze", whereas the "Shooter" is only "Schütze" - therefore the "Scharfschütze" ("Sniper") is only a particular type of "Schütze" ("Shooter"). Based on this I once had translated the following paragraph on the origin of the word "sniper" from German to English:
    A first approach to the essence of the sniper gives the origin of the word ‘shooter’. The brothers Grimm derived the word from the Old High German ‘scuzzo’ and sources on related words in other Germanic languages like ‘skytt’ in Swedishicon, ‘skytte’ in Danishicon and ‘skut’ in Anglo-Saxon*. It refers to the sender of projectiles, but is not connected to the form of the bullet, nor the used firearm.

    In France the shooter is called ‘tireur’, derived from the verb ‘tirer’ (pull, stretch, extend), and describes the operation of drawing a bow or drawing a crossbow, as well as pulling the trigger of a rifle**.

    In Slavic languages the shooter is called ‘strelec’ and ‘strjeljac’, derived from the verb ‘streljati’ and ‘streljaf’. A word connected to the sender of a projectile, but also referring to the fired projectile, the arrow (‘strela’)***.

    In Latin texts shooters are referred as 'sagittarii' or 'ballistarii', which use their bow (‘arcus’) or their crossbow (‘arcuballista’ or ‘ballista’) to shoot their arrows (‘sagitta’)****.

    Shooters are therefore persons, who shoot. This view is being confirmed by word formations like ‘bowman’, ‘arbalest’ or ‘rifleman’. The meaning of shooting was therefore still fully alive, when only those called themselves ‘shooters’, which were handling with distance weapons. Especially in Frenchicon medieval texts they’re using exclusively the words ‘archers’, ‘arbalétriers’, ‘arquebusiers’, respectively Old French ‘archers’, ‘arbalétriers’ and ‘haquebutiers’, the latter also called ‘couleuvres’*****.

    To the designation of a notably good shooter the German language knows word formed with ‘scharf’ (sharp), which gets its special meaning with ‘Scharfblick’ (sharp eye), ‘scharfes Auge’ (keen eyed) and ‘scharfer Munition’ (live ammunition). In French the ‘tireur d’elite’, in Slavic language the ‘ostrostrelec’ and ‘snajperista’.

    However, the most revealing terms are those developed in the English language. The ‘marksman’ is a designation for someone who strikes the target (‘mark’) with precision. The word ‘sharpshooter’ is latest known by the 17th century. Additionally known is the word ‘sniper’, a nowadays known term among military experts worldwide, and probably currently the most used word.
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    * Grimm, Jakob, Wilhelm Grimm: Deutsches Wörterbuch. Vol. 9. Leipzig 1899, Sp. 2125-2127
    ** Grappin, Pierre: Dictiormaire Moderne Francais-Allemand. Paris 1963, p. 787
    *** Karadzic, Vuk Stefanovic: Srpski Rjecnik. Istumacen njemackijem i lattnskijem rijecima. 3. izd., ispravljeno i umnozeno. Beograd 1898, p. 742; Dictionary Russianicon-German. Publisher v. Edmund Daum and Werner Schenk. 7th unmodified run. Leipzig 1976, p. 822; Tomsic", France: Slovensko-Nemski Slovar. Ljubljana 1983, p. 612; Trautmann, Reinhold: Baltic-Slavic Dictionary. Göttingen 1923, p. 28
    **** Reintges, Theo: Ursprung und Wesen der spätmittelalterlichen Schützengilden. Bonn 1963, p. 38
    ***** Reintges, Theo: Ursprung und Wesen der spätmittelalterlichen Schützengilden, p. 38

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    Promo, that's absolutely correct.
    Scharfschütze and Schütze are, as you write, respectively sniper and shooter or rifleman.
    When speaking about military matters, it means rifleman (the normal infantry soldier). Schützen are, outside the military world, the normal shooters who go to the range or members of paramilitary organisations.
    When I talk to Germanicon or Austrian friends about my shooting and they ask me if I'm a hunter, I answer that I'm not, but that I'm a Schütze, meaning that I'm a person who shoots at targets for a sport.
    My second mother tongue, sorry for being so boring...
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    For those interested in sniping there is a book currently on ebay for the princely sum of £2.64 including postage in the UKicon
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    Sniper: One on One - The World of Combat Sniping By Adrian D. Gilbert

    This is a hardback and covers sniping from the American Civil War up to 1990 (the book was first published in 1994) it is a new book at an unbelievable low price.
    I have purchased 5 copies for myself, friends and club competition awards.

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    Thanks Roger for the excellent article and thanks Doug for making it available.

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    I have fully read the article on Friday. It was very interesting and had contained a lot of information which was new to me. A pity the pictures only were black/white, and would had loved a few more especially of scopes (like to show the difference between the Aldis Patterns), but of course this would just had been the icing on the cake! Oh, and the font was painful to read, but this of course is just a small detail!

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    From my library book from #5 is pic 1 and another couple on the matter one is a no hold barred Germanicon sniper on the Eastern front the Russians did not muck around with any captured snipers pretty gripping tale, I have another 18 titles on snipers through conflicts from WWI - present.

    Lastly "The Last Wolf" By Cox a Marine Scout Sniper its a good read but I suggest if your interested in it you get a kindle copy as your not going to like the price of them now there is one copy on Amazon, I brought mine years ago for $100/Au.
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    Hi all,

    With regard Promo’s comments regard the black an white images in Roger’s excellent article I will hopefully be able to help with this. I am currently putting the finishing touches to a book I have been working on for the last eighteen months. The title is The Britishicon Sniper. A Century of Evolution and studies the weapons, spotting scopes, clothing and ancillaries of the British sniper since 1915 to the present. All the principle rifles issued to the field army and their optics are photographed in detail. Roger has been a great help and has indeed allowed me to include several examples from his own collection.
    I’m hoping to launch the book in the autumn.

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    So the most precise translation would be "sharpshooter"?

    Another term; "sharp shooter", was in use in Britishicon newspapers as early as 1801. In the Edinburgh Advertiser, 23 June 1801, can be found the following quote in a piece about the North British Militia; "This Regiment has several Field Pieces, and two companies of Sharp Shooters, which are very necessary in the modern "Stile of War". The term appears even earlier, around 1781, in Continental Europe, translated from the Germanicon Scharfschütze
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

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    Much changes, much remains the same.

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