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    Help ID'ing Artillery Shell

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    I just picked up a 4" artillery shell from a guy over on CMPicon. Neither of us know what it is though. The base flange is 5" OD, base of the shell is 4 5/8" OD, mouth is 4" ID, OA case length is 25 11/16", it has two cannalures below the mouth, and weighs right at 10 lbs. The base lettering consists of: "1939", PB, C/32, and the logo which I drew up because it's so small. See pix below.





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    Isn't much help, but 4" is 101mm/10cm. Everybody and his brother had a gun that size. Field guns as opposed to anti-tank or tank main gun. Tank/SP guns that big came late in the war. Mind you, 4" naval guns were the standard RN anti-aircraft gun from the late 40's. Haida's main guns are 4" multi-purpose guns.
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    Just a guess...

    The top symbol of your "drawing" sure kooks like a stylized flaming bomb ordnance stamp.

    It looks European & 4" = 99.2 mm. Does that ring any bells? Who had 99mm artillery?

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    The forum needs a better close up pic of the symbol above the C/32 I am in agreance with Boonie Stomper that it appears to be a flaming bomb though I must say I dont think any of them would be so pedantic as to worry about .8 of a millimeter and just go by 100mm or 10cm artillery nomenclature for ease of identification.

    A WAG could be that C= Cordite loaded and 32 a lot No.
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    "...4" = 99.2 mm..." Nope. 101mm. Multiply by .0254.
    "...appears to be a flaming bomb..." Isn't the American one.
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    This is the best I could get. Looks like a capital "P" followed by a smaller capitol "B", perhaps in a different font?

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    If you look closely at 9 o'clock about halfway in towards the primer hole you can just make out the No.5.

    Here is the manufacturer code ~ 05 (5) - Spreewerke, Lübben, East Germanyicon,

    Or it could be this one discounting the C which I still reckon stands for cordite leaving 32.

    32 - Linköpings Tändsticksfabrik, Lidköping, Swedenicon.
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    I completely missed that one! Directly across the primer hole from the "bomb" halfway between the hole and rim edge, is the number "35".



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    I get no hits for 35 surmising it may be an inspectors stamp the only other thing is the C/ may stand for these apart from that the symbols would be the defining mark to identifying the case! Good luck
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    Could the C/32 refer to the 105mm Germanicon SK C/32 gun? Looks like a similar case.

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