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[gsimmons]

Don’t tell him your name,Pike.

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

Keep the memories alive.




Wonder if anything WWII or any conflict for that matter is even taught in school anymore ?
And if so......... Can you imagine 'The Spin' put on it now.

I have no children so no first hand answer but my understanding very little.
How do you know where you are going or how to get there if you do not know from where you came? It seems to me it is far less painful to learn from others mistakes than to repeat them and learn first hand.

[Gil Boyd]

Watched a lot of Yesterday Channel yesterday 6th June, as I would normally be over in Normandy this week doing the Regimental graves but couldn't make it.
Saw to often the video images in Colour, of the ramps going down and the German Spandau's just mowing into the landing craft. They were told not to go over the side, but men did and drowned in 10 foot of water with all the kit they had on, the life preservers became death preservers as they struggled to give any buoyancy!!
How could they open the ramps in 10 foot of water, unless they were stuck on underwater obstacles? I thought a large team of RE's went in the day before and got rid of the ones in line with the run in?
Great photo Painter777.

[mrclark303]

The anticipated, planned for and accepted casualty rate during WW2 makes your blood run cold Gil...

I remember reading the excellent memoirs of John Kennelly VC "The Honour and the Shame" The casualty rate suffered by the Irish Guards fighting in Italy meant whole battalions were to all intents and purposes wiped out. The training "factory" back in the UK churning out replacement battalions to keep the advance pushing forward, as the brave men at the end of this production line of death, paid the ultimate price..

D day used the same principle on steroids, with men pushed into the line until they broke through. When you consider that 50% casualty rates had already been taken into account in the planning and failure was not an option ... It's very, very sobering stuff..

[philb]

No rds in their Garand belts

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The pfcs boots have dubbing on them, there not black

[Merle]

The anticipated, planned for and accepted casualty rate during WW2 makes your blood run cold Gil...

I remember reading the excellent memoirs of John Kennelly VC "The Honour and the Shame" The casualty rate suffered by the Irish Guards fighting in Italy meant whole battalions were to all intents and purposes wiped out. The training "factory" back in the UK churning out replacement battalions to keep the advance pushing forward, as the brave men at the end of this production line of death, paid the ultimate price..

D day used the same principle on steroids, with men pushed into the line until they broke through. When you consider that 50% casualty rates had already been taken into account in the planning and failure was not an option ... It's very, very sobering stuff..

That and the expected casualties for invading Japan......

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

I am sure this has been posted previously but I heard it yesterday on the radio and thought I would share it again.

Quite moving.

[Paul S.]

The anticipated, planned for and accepted casualty rate during WW2 makes your blood run cold Gil...

I remember reading the excellent memoirs of John Kennelly VC "The Honour and the Shame" The casualty rate suffered by the Irish Guards fighting in Italy meant whole battalions were to all intents and purposes wiped out. The training "factory" back in the UK churning out replacement battalions to keep the advance pushing forward, as the brave men at the end of this production line of death, paid the ultimate price..

D day used the same principle on steroids, with men pushed into the line until they broke through. When you consider that 50% casualty rates had already been taken into account in the planning and failure was not an option ... It's very, very sobering stuff..

That anticipated casualty rate you spoke of was mostly because so many of the Commonwealth's higher officers had served as lieutenants in the trenches during WWI. They'd seen first hand 'the butchers bill' being paid in full. For instance, the Gordons had 9 battalions (1914 strength of 1007 Officers and ORs) on the Western Front and suffered over 29,000 casualties including 9,000 killed. That means that statistically each of the Officers and ORs of all 9 battalions was replaced more than 3 times.

[Gil Boyd]

Only JKF and Ronald Reagan can hold a candle up when it comes to speeches and mean it.
Great piece there.

[mrclark303]

That anticipated casualty rate you spoke of was mostly because so many of the Commonwealth's higher officers had served as lieutenants in the trenches during WWI. They'd seen first hand 'the butchers bill' being paid in full. For instance, the Gordons had 9 battalions (1914 strength of 1007 Officers and ORs) on the Western Front and suffered over 29,000 casualties including 9,000 killed. That means that statistically each of the Officers and ORs of all 9 battalions was replaced more than 3 times.

Hi Paul, the casualty rate of WW1 was unimaginable, I have yet to visit even the tiniest village in the UK that doesn't have a war memorial and lost men in the great war.

Some villages and towns vertually loosing an entire generation of young men.

It's a rate of casualties and loss of life that simply wouldn't be tolerated today.