Real or Fake ?

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

Enough fun, back to carbines.

[painter777]

Enough fun, back to carbines.

Fair enough Jim,
Thanks for giving us the chance to goof off for a short while. I needed something that would get their attention.
Just trying to give the guys a little kick start for summer, since the board has been a bit slow.
No 'Hard Feelings' ?

BTW: #1 Crossed Cannons stamp is clearly a Fake. Sold on Ebay by the seller badgerland_ken from Wisconsin a couple years ago.

Did you take any pictures you can share with us in The Watering Hole from your last boat ride ?

Cheers,
CH-P777

[CINDERS]

Just a question on #1 but would not the buyer have alarm bells going off if we have say a 70 y/o stock with general wear and tear & patina then all of a sudden you come across a stamping on the stock that looks as crisp as it was done yesterday surely the buyer would have twigged or did they get sharked for a good deal of dosh!

[Patrick Chadwick]

Jim, I was being serious.

Both photos show how attention can be focussed on one particular attribute, and thereby overlook that the picture as a whole is inconsistent. Inconsistency is a major factor in exposing fakes, as it does not depend on other, possibly contentious, "3rd. party" parameters for judgement, but is revealed within the item itself. I.e. I haven't got a clue about stylistic aspects of the stamp, but that is not necessary to see that its condition does not match the rest of the stock.

Yes, it is relevant for carbines, and all other items where discussion of whether a marking has the correct form or not blinds many to objects where the marking must be much later than the original item, and is therefore faked - even if it was made with a genuine original stamp!