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    Belgian P.14 conversion to 8x57IS

    Finally a last piece which had turned up on gunbroker and I had brought home to Europe. Note the additional thumbhole for stripper clip filling of the magazine, plus the nearly blank phosphate finish.
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    Promo-- I am believing your rifle probably a combo of P14 and M1917 parts. The buttstock is definitely from a WWII US re-build program at Rock Island Arsenal. Is there anyway to determine who in Belgian did the conversion?

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    PS-- Nice rifle by the way!

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    The stock is indeed from a M1917. If you were to ask me, this rifle had been converted during the 1930s by Grimont in Belgiumicon, then sold to Spain and from there on post WWII made the way to the US (possibly with an ugly stock) where the stock was replaced with a better one.

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    Promo thanks. Does your rifle take the sixth round in the magazine well like the M1917? Additionally any markings on the barrel? Pics please. It not that often we get to see these great weapons.

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    The rifles were converted to 7.92 mm by a company called Edgar Grimard in Belgiumicon.
    This is the same company that converted the Vickers to 7.92 for the Britishicon to give to Turkeyicon in an attempt to buy their loyalty.
    Gimard was a large company and did a lot of conversions and I believe the number of Pattern 14 conversions was quite large.
    I have the figures here some where but where escapes me right now.

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    Grimard had an understanding with Soley Arms who was established by BSA to sell off WWI excess Britishicon arms. As I understand how things happened. Very little research has been done in this area.

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    Makes me wonder how many crates of 8mm p14s are hidden away in Turkeyicon...



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