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    Great rifles, indeed. But I really think they are too well made, with tight tolerances. Consider mud or sand, or even the freezing Russianicon front.
    When I shoot my K31 every now and then a clean round needs some encouragement to be fully chambered and the action perfectly closed.
    Factory ammo would prevent this side of the issue, but the “real world” would add soil, grit, mud, ice.
    And prevent the high standards of maintenance the Swissicon soldiers are trained to apply to they rifles.
    I think that rifle could have caused headaches. Maybe even not. Just my thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovidio View Post
    Great rifles, indeed. But I really think they are too well made, with tight tolerances. Consider mud or sand, or even the freezing Russianicon front.
    When I shoot my K31 every now and then a clean round needs some encouragement to be fully chambered and the action perfectly closed.
    Factory ammo would prevent this side of the issue, but the “real world” would add soil, grit, mud, ice.
    And prevent the high standards of maintenance the Swissicon soldiers are trained to apply to they rifles.
    I think that rifle could have caused headaches. Maybe even not. Just my thoughts.
    Imo they would perform Ok, i mean the Mannlicher M95 served austro-hungaria pretty well even if they do have a reputation to jam in dirt, its nowhere as close to the canadian ross reputation. The swiss even used mannlicher design carbine in 1893 as cavalry carbine so id say build quality on the austro-hungarian rifle was there otherwise the swiss would not have purchased said rifle. I dont think the K31 could qualify as the "Greatest bolt action" but im pretty sure they could have served with success. Especially in WW2 as fighting condition were way better than the WW1 trench the M95 and ross rifle were exposed
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    The K31icon was designed for hard use in harsh conditions so I don't think that is a valid argument to discount it. The rifles were used and abused which is apparent from the stock conditions on most. I've seen a lot of training films with them using the rifles as lifts to get over obstacles etc, something I wouldn't do with my rifles now. And their tactics involved fighting in the Alps in the snow and ice.

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    It all depend how you define the question;

    The best bolt action "battle rifle" by combination of features has to be the No4 Lee Enfield, 10 round magazine, excellent sights, adjustable length of pull, reasonable combat effective cartridge.

    The "best" action has to be the M.1898 Mauser action; it is the only one in continuous production (functionally unchanged) for 120 years - in fact you should be able to fit a (standard cartridge) bolt manufactured today to an action manufactured in 1898, and vice versa.
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    Only those that own a P&H rifle would understand that Gil I've had one for the best part of 33 years though only in 22/250 but its still a massive action for that cartridge.

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    Firmly built to last!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    Uh, no. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.
    I am sure good argument can be made for putting lipstick on a pig.

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    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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