+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3
Results 21 to 28 of 28

Thread: Feeding the Krag

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #21
    Legacy Member butlersrangers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last On
    03-26-2024 @ 09:38 PM
    Location
    S.E. Michigan, U.S.A.
    Posts
    737
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    04:01 PM
    Range of motion of follower/carrier-arm and spring strength and action are easily checked.

    The curved flat spring puts tension on the magazine-gate, as well as, powers the carrier-arm by bearing on its cam. The magazine-gate works firmly. The carrier-arm requires only moderate spring tension, but, should move and compress smoothly.

    Compare your assembly with posted photos. Follower and tip of carrier should be shaped and project as the ones in photo. The tip of the carrier plays a significant role in lifting and feeding the last cartridge in the magazine. (The 'earlier' cartridges ride on the cartridge behind them).

    Photo shows an original .30 U.S. Army 'last round' in magazine.

    Attachment 94538
    Last edited by butlersrangers; 07-12-2018 at 11:30 AM.

  2. Thank You to butlersrangers For This Useful Post:


  3. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  4. #22
    Advisory Panel Dick Hosmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    02-07-2024 @ 03:34 AM
    Location
    Northern California
    Posts
    103
    Real Name
    Dick Hosmer
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    01:01 PM
    I think the key is that the "final push" on a round varies. The first four are being "pushed" by a cartridge - which is not exactly the same shape as the follower. The fifth round is located solely by the follower which must present a slightly different line of contact to the round about to be chambered. This could/would present enough of a different 'tilt' to cause the "different than designed for" bullet shape to come into play. The difference must be very slight because some rifles feed 180gr. bullets and others don't. The army didn't care, because the round the gun was designed for fed flawlessly - barring damaged parts. Off the bench, you can single load. In normal hunting, you should be fine, as the deer is supposed to be down within four shots (chuckle!) but if hunting something dangerous (feral hogs for example) you'd want to be sure that EVERY round will feed EVERY time.

  5. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  6. #23
    Legacy Member boomer656's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Last On
    03-18-2024 @ 07:45 AM
    Location
    Pennsylvania, US
    Age
    70
    Posts
    121
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    04:01 PM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Hosmericon View Post
    I think the key is that the "final push" on a round varies. The first four are being "pushed" by a cartridge - which is not exactly the same shape as the follower. The fifth round is located solely by the follower which must present a slightly different line of contact to the round about to be chambered. This could/would present enough of a different 'tilt' to cause the "different than designed for" bullet shape to come into play. The difference must be very slight because some rifles feed 180gr. bullets and others don't. The army didn't care, because the round the gun was designed for fed flawlessly - barring damaged parts. Off the bench, you can single load. In normal hunting, you should be fine, as the deer is supposed to be down within four shots (chuckle!) but if hunting something dangerous (feral hogs for example) you'd want to be sure that EVERY round will feed EVERY time.
    Exactly right!!
    In my case I will be using this rifle to hunt the ever dangerous paper target.

  7. #24
    Legacy Member butlersrangers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last On
    03-26-2024 @ 09:38 PM
    Location
    S.E. Michigan, U.S.A.
    Posts
    737
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    04:01 PM
    Paper-Cuts are scary!

  8. #25
    Legacy Member boomer656's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Last On
    03-18-2024 @ 07:45 AM
    Location
    Pennsylvania, US
    Age
    70
    Posts
    121
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    04:01 PM
    Thread Starter
    I received a spring and side plate, courtesy of rcathey, today. There was an obvious difference between the spring that I received and the one that I had been using (I couldn't detect any difference other than cosmetics in the side plates).

    Attachment 94550

    The spring rcathey sent is on top. You can see the right end of the spring has a different profile. The spring also measures .1mm longer. My guess is they started out the same 120 years ago, and the one in my 98 has had a bit more wear.

    Anyway, after installing the replacement spring, the last cartridge in the magazine now loads as you would expect. Problem solved. Thank you rcathey for the materials.

  9. Thank You to boomer656 For This Useful Post:


  10. #26
    Contributing Member rcathey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 11:56 AM
    Location
    St. Louis, MO Area
    Posts
    1,645
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    03:01 PM
    Hell yeah!
    That’s what it’s all about!!
    Very happy to hear.

  11. Thank You to rcathey For This Useful Post:


  12. #27
    Legacy Member butlersrangers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last On
    03-26-2024 @ 09:38 PM
    Location
    S.E. Michigan, U.S.A.
    Posts
    737
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    04:01 PM
    Now we can focus on paper and staple cuts!

  13. #28
    Legacy Member boomer656's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Last On
    03-18-2024 @ 07:45 AM
    Location
    Pennsylvania, US
    Age
    70
    Posts
    121
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    04:01 PM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by butlersrangers View Post
    Now we can focus on paper and staple cuts!
    Staple guns .... for the home and range.
    Last edited by boomer656; 07-15-2018 at 07:54 AM.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3

Similar Threads

  1. M38 feeding issues
    By mac1911 in forum Italian Rifles
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 07-14-2018, 01:22 PM
  2. No 4 Feeding issues.
    By Morning Wood in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 11-18-2013, 09:21 PM
  3. feeding singleshot
    By CouldBeWorse in forum Pattern 1913/1914 and M1917 Rifles
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 11-07-2012, 10:02 AM
  4. Feeding problem.
    By albert in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 05-30-2010, 07:09 AM
  5. P14 Feeding Issues
    By fatti in forum Pattern 1913/1914 and M1917 Rifles
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 08-11-2009, 12:00 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Raven Rocks