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    Martini Enfield, my latest acquisition...

    I thought you gents would appreciate this, as far as I can tell she's an Egyptian Police cabine, converted from a long rifle at Enfield in 1901. Sadly, the stock appears to be a replacement and is completely devoid of markings. But the rifle itself is in excellent shape, bore looks decent, action locks up tight, and everything does what it's suppose to. I haven't had a chance to sit down and do some proper target shooting, but I have put a couple rounds into a stump, shooting 170 grain Privi the recoil is not bad at ALL, she's a real noisemaker, but no surprise there. In short I've fallen completely in love with martini's and this one in particular. The compact carbine length makes me want to pack it around everywhere... It really is an incredibly handy little rifle.



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    I had a chance at two rifles in .303 some years back and didn't. Always regretted it. That one should be excellent...clean carry and compact.
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    .303 Martini's in decent condition are like hen's teeth. Been sort of looking for one for about 40 years.
    "...a real noisemaker..." Carbine's will be. Would have been used with Mk V ammo. Smokeless powder load. Berdan primed. 215 gr HP bullet. Core hardened with 2% antimony.
    Muzzle Velocity of 1970 fps. The Egyptians might have gotten Mk VI ammo though. Smokeless powder load. Berdan primed. 215 gr RN bullet. Muzzle Velocity of 2050 fps
    The bullet weight and velocity is what matters. Woodleigh makes a 215 grain SP. Tradeex lists 'em at $43.95 per 50.
    Load data is here. 303 British and 303 Epps load data
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    Very interesting! It is marked as originally being a Mk.I Artillery Carbine. However, according to my information the Mk.I Martini Enfield Carbines were only produced over the period 1897 - 1899. With a conversion date of 1901 I would have expected it to be a Mk.III.
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    Thanks gents, I thought I was pretty lucky to find this one myself, I actually found it on GunBroker, and as it turns out it was less than 20 miles away! I don't expect that to happen again anytime soon.

    Terry, interesting about the Mk 1 designation, I was told it was an artillery carbine, but that's all I knew. 1901 did strike me as being pretty late for a martini conversion, how long did they continue the refurbishment program?

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    Sam, According to "A Treatise on the Britishicon Military Martini" by Temple & Skennertonicon, the Martini Enfield Artillery Carbine Mk. I was produced over the period 1897 - 1899, the Mk.II in 1899 and the Mk.III from 1900 - 1904. Refurbishment dates are normally stamped elsewhere. A conversion date of 1901 is certainly interesting. My Mk.Is are both dated 1897. Terry


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    Probably renovated by the Citadel Arsenal in Cairo from Britishicon Martinis for use in Egyptian service. It would have been re stocked in Cairo and you can see the scrubbing of the original marks and the Egyptian ones added on top. This one served with the Egyptian Police after it's prior British service.

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