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    Fleabay!

    Pattern 1918 Lee Enfield Rifle Scope | eBay

    Sold for $2,635.00
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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Pattern 1918 Lee Enfield Rifleicon Scope | eBay

    Sold for $2,635.00
    I did put a bid in but with postage to the UK and the import duties at that price it would have put it up to around £2000.
    I might have considered it if it had been a genuine Britishicon Pattern 18 but a bit to hot for a 1940's Australianicon version.
    I have the rifle so I will just have to keep looking for the scope, has anyone out there got one going spare (ha ha) ?
    Many thanks Cinders for the heads up it is much appreciated.

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    With asking prices getting so silly, it's time to get 100% externally accurate and optically superior, (not hard, these days), and suitably marked reproductions made.

    Go one better and build them as image-moving, not reticule moving devices. Absolute give-away for a repro. Also, easier to collimate and zero for those of us lacking the workshop space for a firing tunnel. You wouldn't have to "tweak" the expensive, reproduction bases and rings, either.

    The only catch is the potential market; a few hundred, globally?

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    BIO remember a few years ago there was a lot of discussion here about the repro's and Chinese knock off's and their QA coupled with their survivability on the weapon was brought into question the base line being you get what you pay for infact I think they copied the MKII style meaning I think you needed the tool to zero it to the rifle.
    If people like DION made them (Makers of March scopes) then one could be assured it would be quality but the price would be in the 0000's still, its a dilemma we are all facing the cost of the "Don't make them anymore" is down to a few things like; 1. Those that have them 2. Those that want them 3. The upper hand on the prices is controlled by those with the means to pay those prices and will crush ones wallet every time.

    I mean look at the prices of MkIII's and No.4's on usedguns here in Aus the base line for a reasonable one of the type begins at about $650 all the way up to 0000's and people are getting the $'s for them glad I have all I want with them I paid $650 for my Lithgowicon 1921 MkIII years ago but it was unfired since its FR (New fore woods in the white still) and came with a matching Lithgow 1921 '07 serialed to the rifle and a double stitched 1921 scabbard, I think I did well.

    Its a case of trolling the net or papers and hopefully lucking onto a cheapie then you may have to get it repaired and that presents another problem as those people with the expertise are like the scopes infact I would say even scarcer!!

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    Any lucky forummers in possession of any engineering drawings or data for these beasts?

    Better to start with original sources with stated tolerances than to reverse engineer from a sample of one or two.

    Getting lenses ground to original (or better) precision would probably be less of a challenge than getting all of the correct metal bits made and then correctly assembled. At the end, you will still have a scope of century-old design.

    Magnesium Fluoride lense "blooming" would probably improve light transmission and reduce "interesting" aberrations, but would it be considered "authentic"?

    And you still end up with a century-old, reticule-moving scope that has to be stripped to fit it into the dodgy, century-old ring design. Not that the original P-'18 was renowned for its "gas-tight" construction in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buccaneer View Post
    I have the rifle so I will just have to keep looking for the scope, has anyone out there got one going spare (ha ha) ?
    What serial number are you after?

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    I need scopes for rifles low mount #28526 and high mount #74838

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    Quote Originally Posted by superbee View Post
    I need scopes for rifles low mount #28526 and high mount #74838
    There's a forum for that on site, would get more attention than here.
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi View Post
    What serial number are you after?
    PM sent rifle serial number 230579
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    I would be in on a replica scope and mounts to make a Lithgowicon sniper as you say the prices for an original are over the top , I would like a replica set of lattey sights the prices for originals are way out of my budget ,the market is out there we just need someone to crack into it

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