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    G/S find

    Had a scrounge through some stuff my local G/S had there was not much there an old 44/40 D C Co (Dominion) but also this Mk 8Z by Privi Partisan (PPU) not a common thing to find down here.
    The thing that gets me is the red annulus also the fact its '85 vintage to still be making the 8Z I guess for the Vickers which some countries still utilized at the time.
    Still got them for nix have to be happy for that though I brought 2000 primers whilst there so they did not miss me!
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    I just shot some of that very cartridge the other day...berdan primed and not bad ammo. Berdan...I know, I tried to run them through the dies and broke a pin. Used my last replacement to fix it.
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    oops! I use universal decapper have never had experience with Berdan primed brass think you need to use an claw type decapper or do it hydraulically, thats K Jim I got caught with my wife's Palmer brass using a large decapping pin oh look-ee here the pins bent! I carry about 5 spares of each pin.

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    finding cartridges

    I did find some early 44-40 without a headstamp marking, believe it was early blackpower loading.

    My small early 303 collection, got them all from a dealer in Wisconsin many years ago,
    never found anymore this early. The Mark 11 in blackpowder is quite rare and expensive
    and doubt I will ever find oneAttachment 94821Attachment 94822

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    The new PPU is made to Mk.8z spec too. Same plant in Croatia, (I think?), instead of the old Yugoslaviaicon. I don't think they ever produced Mk.7z. It's MMG ammo for sure and not worth a crap in rifles with extensive throat wear from Cordite.

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    If thats a Dum-Dum from the Kirkee factory then it is a rare and expensive round along with the early charger clips RCS.

    Funny thing is they banned the dum-dum as being inhumane when the MKVII projies were just as bad giving horrendous wounds due to it becoming unstable when it got inside & started to deform.
    Due to the fact that the make up of it had a aluminium filler in the nose so when that crumpled all the weight was to the rear with the lead core and the round began to go end over end whilst still spinning sort of like a tumbling buzz saw I for one would not want to be on the receiving end of one of them.......

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    Prvi Partizan is in Serbia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    If thats a Dum-Dum from the Kirkee factory then it is a rare and expensive round along with the early charger clips RCS.

    Funny thing is they banned the dum-dum as being inhumane when the MKVII projies were just as bad giving horrendous wounds due to it becoming unstable when it got inside & started to deform.
    Due to the fact that the make up of it had a aluminium filler in the nose so when that crumpled all the weight was to the rear with the lead core and the round began to go end over end whilst still spinning sort of like a tumbling buzz saw I for one would not want to be on the receiving end of one of them.......

    And I saw those aluminum tips explode with a considerable flash when hitting a well cratered steel target. Impressed the hell out of everybody at the range that day! Not all rounds lit off, so I speculated that they had to land "just so" in a crater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merle View Post
    And I saw those aluminum tips explode with a considerable flash when hitting a well cratered steel target. Impressed the hell out of everybody at the range that day! Not all rounds lit off, so I speculated that they had to land "just so" in a crater.
    Interesting you brought that up. We were shooting some green tip 1943 Royal Ordance Factory (Spennymore) yesterday at some well worn AR 500 out of a 1918 BSA. It would flash and throw sparks when it hit the steel. We were shooting at 2 and 300 yard plates. I stopped the guys and told them I thought green tip was AP. We drove down to the targets. Impacts were normal. We went back to shooting made it easy to tell when you got hits. I’ve shot a bunch of POFicon (I know but it was cheap) and Privi but never saw sparks like this green tip. I looked it up today and I think it’s AP if internet did not lie. Not sure why it did not cut through like butter. Velocity had to be good as we used sight slider at 2 and 3 hundred with good hits. We moved sight to 400 and got about 50 percent hits on a gong at 410 yards. This ammo was a gun show find. Also bought some of the Canadianicon “303 Brit” headstamp 150 grain SPs but have not shot it yet.
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    The A.P for RG = Royal Ordnance Factory Radway Green listed the A.P rounds as W Mk 1, W Mk 1 Special and W Mk 1Z have a look at the head stamps if you kept any of the cases.

    Headstamp for Spennymore is SR produced types ...B, MK7, MK8Z, IBMK6Z, IBMK7, IBMK7Z, LTBMK(Mk5) were manufactured. The Spennymore ammunition was filled at the Royal Ordnance Factory at Aycliffe, Durham. The Spennymore factory was part of the 1939 - 45 war emergency expansion plan.

    P.O.F = Possibility Of Firing I used 1967 vintage of that stuff but gave up as it was like shooting a flint lock with a definite pause between the actuation of the primer and setting the main charge off a mini hang fire. Then all he crap came out the end of the barrel obscuring the target for a bit just like a B.P rifle!
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