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    Regards, Jim

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    The night of a 1000 suicides, as a nation and the commonwealth as a whole probably regarded once you were a prisoner of war we obeyed the Geneva convention and whilst they were not pampered it was better treatment the Japs gave to any of our troops or any other allied soldiers.
    There is a town about 150 kliks from where I live and they have a memorial there for those that fell in the Sandakan death march I have been there and its a humbling experience for the U.S troops it was the Bataan Death March I have read the latter but not the Sandakan yet! (Read Knights Of Bushido By Lord Russell of Liverpool I think its just shocking)
    The Japaneseicon code was you had no rite to life if you surrendered and as they were not a signatory to the Geneva convention they were not bound by it not that it would have stopped them from the inhumanity they directed to not only soldiers but the nurses and civilians as well.
    We were so very lucky our militia held the Japs the first time the Japs had been stopped in jungle fighting in N.G or the world for that matter whilst the regular A.I.F was in Africa, then we had U.S troops come to our side to finish the job and repel them as Australia was the ideal place for MacArthur's long term plan to retake the islands.

    I don't know much of what other countries have in the way of remembering their fallen but here there are monuments just about everywhere, about an hour from the Sandakan memorial in Boyup (Boy-up) Brook there is a very small place with about 3-4 old farm style houses nothing else and then as you pass through it there on the right side of the road is a monument for our fallen with names on it.
    I have had to go through there just after Anzac Day heading to Albany with the crane and there were wreaths laid by those there no doubt some relatives may still live in the area, also we are just a small town as well but have a fairly good sized monument for all wars and a nice RSL Hall (Small) I do like wearing my dads medals and think of him and all the past, present & future soldiers from the world who go away to carry the fight to oppressors.

    I thought the George Cross was awarded to reserve troops Syme & Mould two Australianicon RNVR aerial mine disposal officers could only get the George Cross (Mould got the Bar to it) as they did not face the enemy, I would have though Jones & Hardy were facing the enemy even POW's why the George Cross & not the DSO or DCM! Anyway it is part of our history now.
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    Second bite of the cherry (blossom): 9th of August is Nagasaki Day.

    Closely followed by VJ Day on the 15th.

    And it has all been world-wide sweetness and light ever since............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosine26 View Post
    Lest you think that I am unfamiliar with nukes,
    No sir, perhaps you misunderstand me, we follow you. We came after and follow in your footsteps. You went ahead of us, I served 35 years as an infantryman. Your words are gospel because you had more to lose if the bombs hadn't been dropped.
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    Survivors called it PIKADON ~ Light then Thunder.
    Another good read for all you book worms is "The Day The Bomb Fell" nothing to do with Japanicon in WWII but a scary ride on the US having wayward Nuclear bombs drop out of aircraft when they weren't supposed to one I think was on US soil with 4 of the 5 fail safes failing leaving one hanging there or 1 step away from a detonation....interesting read.

    Recently I just watched a doco on a Titan Missile silo fire in the 80's now that was scary moment the explosions of all the fuel going up not the warhead it blew the 700 tonne silo hatch clean off the warhead landing outside the silo had the bomb detonated then the loss of life would have been horrendous as it was @50 died.

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    Hi BAR
    You did not offend me. I just wanted people to know that I was very familiar with nukes. Gen. LeMay was CIC of SAC when I flew. It was said when you were in SAC "Give your heart to God because you A$$ belonged to LeMay.
    FWIW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosine26 View Post
    I just wanted people to know that I was very familiar with nukes.
    Yes sir, we've discussed some of your flying time...
    Regards, Jim

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    The war in the pacific was a war of annihilation with little or no quarter being given. The mounting causalities from the Okinawa and Iwo Jima was great concern to the US leadership and we had not invaded the home island yet. Most of the military folks who were scheduled to invade the home islands knew there was going to mass causalities from the invasion. I have talk to several veterans who told me they cried when the bombs dropped and the Japaneseicon surrendered. They did not cry for the lost of the Japanese but the fact they knew they would survive the war. Many years ago I was a government security inspector and had several occasions to visit the Grumman Aircraft Company on Long Island. Many of the workers were former navy aviation veterans from the Pacific War. Local management would hang a flag of a foreign country whose aircraft they were building at the time. The workers almost riot when the local management tried to hang a Japanese flag in the plant ceiling for a Japanese aircraft contract. Many had long and bitter memories of friends lost in the Pacific.


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