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    1912 SMLE Enfield Retoration Project Wrap-up

    I am in the final stages of bring a sporterized version of this rifle back to its full military condition. It had a FTR, maybe done by BSA, so I'm trying to keep this refurb true to that FTR.
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    Would this nosecap have a small or large diameter head cross-screw?
    I think that I have the draws nice and tight on the replacement forend and I have barrel to wood contact only an inch on either side of the inner band area, under the barrel reinforce and the lower surface of the receiver.. I'm a little unsure of the bedding of the barrel from from the inner band to the muzzle. Apparently the barrel must not touch the inner surfaces of the nosecap but how is this possible when the sprung plunger is pushing it upward?
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    Welcome to Milsurps may I suggest you use the search function and look at the threads there on bearing surfaces for the MKIII Mr Peter Laidlericon has kindly donated his hard earned wisdom and experience for us tinkerer's to learn from his articles are worth their weight in gold as sometimes the books can be a bit ambiguous and may be interpreted incorrectly.
    But nothing beats hands on experience of doing them......as Peter has done lots and lots of them over the years.....!

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    Thanks Cinders. I will give the search function a shot. I used Peter's detail instructions for the stocking up process but this last part is a bit cloudy for me. I have to say that the stocking up process took me a long time to complete but I'm sure that practice makes perfect.

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    Regarding the nosecap cross screw, The larger head cross screw turned up in WW1 possibly in conjunction with the 'Flanders Flap' which it holds into place quite nicely. From then on it seems all new production was to be with the larger cross screw as the larger cross screw is less prone to being stripped , however in accordance with Britishicon practice, older stock was to be used up rather than being discarded. So, If the FTR was shortly after WW1 then it may have had the smaller cross screw, however if the FTR was in the 40's or 50's then the cross screw would most likely be the larger size.
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    Thanks for the info Roy. I have a cross screw that's in really good shape so I willuse it. From all I've researched and seen in person I know that there is no set in stone configuration and, as you alluded to, they used up whatever they had in stock before using the new stuff.

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    No worries, the small cross screw is much smarter.

    You have restored to MkIII specs with cutoff but without volley sights? Photos when you are done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    No worries, the small cross screw is much smarter.

    You have restored to MkIII specs with cutoff but without volley sights? Photos when you are done!
    It won't have a cutoff or volley sights. My goal with this project is to have the rifle in the condition it would likely have been in when it was issued after its 1953 FTR. I think it got a new BSA barrel at that time so I'm guessing that BSA did the FTR.
    I have been taking lots of photos and just did the metal bluing today. Ihope to get it to the range next week and will post pictures of it then.

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    The large dia screws heads were called 'coin-slot screws' by the old Armourers as they were made to be unscrewed with a coin and not the usual screwdriver. NOT popular among Armourers because guess what....... Give the normal crunchie a screw that ain't staked down or closed and guess what? And guess what happens next? And guess what happens next....? Yep right each time. First he unscrews it with a coin, next he loses the screw in the mud, sand or grass and next he hands the rifle in, incomplete and doesn't tell the arms storeman.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    The large dia screws heads were called 'coin-slot screws' by the old Armourers as they were made to be unscrewed with a coin and not the usual screwdriver. NOT popular among Armourers because guess what....... Give the normal crunchie a screw that ain't staked down or closed and guess what? And guess what happens next? And guess what happens next....? Yep right each time. First he unscrews it with a coin, next he loses the screw in the mud, sand or grass and next he hands the rifle in, incomplete and doesn't tell the arms storeman.......
    Thanks for the info Peter. Thanks also for all of the info on the stocking up process and all of the other armourer's related info. I have a whole new level of respect for the person who did this in the factory and for the armourer's in the field. I regularly do detailed woodwork as a luthier but this process seemed to take me forever. Anyway, I think that all of the boxes are checked off and I have a fit that requires the forend to be lightly tapped off the receiver at the wrist end. The metalwork was blued yesterday and is soaking in oil awaiting assembly. The rifle is going to,the range next week so a few rounds up the spout will be the proof in the pudding. I have been documenting this transformation with lots of photos that I will post after its test firing.

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    A coin slot screw would be useful for taking a Flanders flap off in the field. Perhaps the problem was its name. Maybe it should have been called Screw, Nosecap, Extra Duties?
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