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    M1 carbine Bavarian & stock

    Just pick this up a few days ago. M1icon carbine Inland 7/43 Bavarian & I wink with a Germanicon made stock & hand guard ??. Was told the wood is european wallnut . Bolt lug is up the no go gauge inside chamber.

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    gunsdora, the only picture I can see is the rack with all the carbines, which brings me to the question, why does it look like some of those carbine barrels are much longer than the others?

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    At one time to own a carbine in Canadaicon, you had to have a barrel that was about 19 inches I think it was. So some barrels were changed for commercial ones. I think they repealed that law not all that long ago.

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    Bob No problem thanks for putting them up. I have no idea what happen to them & there is no edit on my post ???.

    The pics of the carbines I put the wrong pic . It should have been one of the Bavarian carbine. Up here the 18'' barrel is restricted you can only use them at a shooting range or keep in a safe. If you put a 18 1/2 '' or more barrel with no extension . Must be one piece including the chamber they are non restricted & you can go hunting with them. A few years ago extensions like flash Hiders welded to the barrel was ok but they stop that in 92.

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    Both the stock and Handguard have been numbered to 2 different Bavarian used carbines. Not uncommon. Stock has the thicker inner walls like the late War US beefed up M2 stocks.

    Stock is a post war replacement that is a close match to the US type II Hi-wood Oval cut oiler slot. Stock is not US made and I don't believe the European maker has been identified yet.
    Notice the pistol grip area is different and the wrist is slimmer.
    The letters in script LP stand for Landespolizei...... the police for that area (loose translation...... very loose LOL)
    The stock is made from Northern European Beech, the light flecking or rays help ID it as being so.

    For more information I suggest looking at our hard working buddy Sleeplessintheshadows - Jim M's research on Bavarian police use of the carbine.

    Here: U.S. Carbines in Germany and Austria
    And here: U.S. Carbines in Germany and Austria

    U.S. Carbines in Germany and Austria

    A past similar post: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=60120&page=1

    I suggest you read any and everything on his site that has to do with Austria's use of the carbine....... because of the stamped LP be sure to read about any of the Police use. You'll find examples showing your rear dovetails, added rear sight.... etc.


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    Charlie thanks for the info . Would be nice to know how made the stock. It is well made & a very nice fit . All ways nice to learn something about this carbines.

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    Did they happen to mark the outer ear on the front sight with a single or double number ?
    Curiosity makes me ask...

    Also interesting and a 'makes you wonder' why they remove the INLAND letters from inside the logo on the trigger housing, and I believe stamp a number in it.
    Just don't understand since they mark the last 4 digits of the serial number on the back of it ??

    Nice looking carbines G-Dora, especially the new Bavarian and very nice rack.

    I believe the Bavarians received their carbines from Germanyicon.
    I also believe one of the companies below located in West Germany made and supplied these stocks.

    If I'm correct the stocks come from someone in this group (Info below collected from Jim M's site):

    ERMA's History
    The Thuringen region of Germany has a long tradition in weapons manufacturing. The cities of Suhl and Zella-Mehlis have been home to manufacturers Merkel, Haenel, Walther, and Anschutz, to name a few. In Erfurt, Erfurter Maschinenfabrik B. Geipel GmbH. was established in 1922 by Berthold Geipel. During WWII Erfurter Maschinenfabrik was best known for its production of the MP40 Machine Pistol, though they manufactured many different weapons.

    With the end of WWII in May 1945 Allied Forces ordered the closure of all German weapon manufacturing facilities. The facilities still intact were taken over by the military of the Allied Occupation Zone the company found itself in. The entire Thuringen region was within the Russianicon Occupation Zone. The owners of several of the manufacturing facilities in Thuringia relocated, without their equipment, to the American Occupation Zone. Erfurter Maschinenfabrik was re-established in 1949 as ERMA-Werke, and moved to its new facility in Dachau outside Munich in 1952.
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    Anyone remember the meaning of the number stamped on the Bavarian Frt sights ??

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    Did they happen to mark the outer ear on the front sight with a single or double number ?
    Curiosity makes me ask..
    Gunsdora replied:
    Forgot about the stamp on the front sight. Looks like # 68.



    Gunsdora replied:
    The Inland logo on the trigger housing is still there but hard to see.



    I don't recall the meaning of the number on the Frt sight.
    Again..... Very nice looking Carbine, Thanks for sharing it.
    Will you shoot it ?
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    Here's a number similar to your Frt sight but it's stamped in a shield. Said to stand for the year that ERMA PRODUCED THEIR EM1 training rifle. The circled/shielded number would stand for the year it was inspected.
    I don't know if it relates to your Frt sight, only connection I could see would be the rebuilding Erma did for the US post war.

    But here you can find more about the Circled Date and other Proof Inspection stamps......

    ERMA-Werke



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