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    New to Me - Win Model of 1917

    Hi All,

    So I have been gone for quite a while - life gets in the way sometimes - we all know how that goes.

    However, i got in on a trade a Model of 1917 - here is what I know.

    All Winchester except for the bolt release marked E (eddy) - would you go through the process to replace it? And the stock has the nice big R in the channels

    All other parts are W marked - bright shiny bore - ME 1.5 easily passes headspace checks on WWII guages

    Stock has the C ^ stamp on the stock - and has the tell tale sign of the red band under the handguards. Reminds me of the No1MkIII that Peter helped me ID way back when as a DP rifle...!

    Cleaned her up last night got some cosmo out in places and have her a good raw linseed oilicon bath and kept screws nice and loose for a bit - she will get another bath this weekend.

    My question however is - was there a methodology for placement of the red band and if so where would it be? Also might seem silly but was there a definitive color palette for the red and if so does anyone have a good pic?

    I am thinking of adding the band back...



    The detraction that I see on the rifle is that it is import marked by CAI at the muzzle...

    Other than that it does fit in the collection.

    Thanks for taking the time to read and respond if you do....

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    Nice looking rifle...good catch. It would be like the one my past father in law was issued as a driver in Fredericton NB during the war. I wouldn't repaint the band.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    I wouldn't repaint the band.

    I think I am tending to agree at this time - the remnants of the red are under the handguards where they meet - I will leave those there for posterity - hopefully will get her out on the range this Sunday with some M2 Ball and see how she does -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickjc View Post
    some M2 Ball
    Should do well, give us a look after?
    Regards, Jim

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    Agree on not painting again too. It's beauty with a good barrel, and the Canadianicon provenance is there with the remnant paint and broad arrow stamp.
    I have a similar early 87K winchester, and consider the CAI import stamp part of the provenance also.
    Lots of these were given to Denmarkicon also,well traveled but not shot out. Nick Ferris book on the '17 has good info on these.
    Congrats!

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    Each entity that put a color on the stock used their own color and location and likely it was generally applicant, so variation on where.

    All they wanted was a heads up, not precision.

    Canadaicon had Air Force, Army and various non deployed interior defense entitles so those would have done their own.

    If it was Danishicon, then it wold have the SN on the bottom of the stock, like the bolts, possibly not the same SN as on the rifle as they did get mixed up when brought back into US.

    Keep as is, all the marks tell the story of the rifle and its provenance is then proved.

    parts: There are a lot of parts than can have an R, W or E (some only numbers per Ferris book) so it can be a challenge getting all to a W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC20 View Post
    If it was Danishicon, then it would have the SN on the bottom of the stock, possibly not the same SN as on the rifle
    I did have an M1icon come past me that had the rifle number on the stock...same number as the receiver. That said to me they were supposed to be numbered together, otherwise why would they have placed a tag inside stating the zeroing requirements of that rifle... ?
    Regards, Jim

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    I have an Eddystone, import marked, that can trace its use by Canadaicon, Norwayicon and Denmarkicon. All of the added markings and modifications match. All firearms commercially imported into the U.S. post 1968 must have import markings added. The receiver is notched (Norway), the stock is numbered to the rifle (Denmark), the bolt and rear sight are numbered to the rifle (Canada)

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    So as they say you dont know what you dont know... !

    Get to range and was thinking...man that is a fat front sight holy cow....




    So I setup at 50yds ladder sight down...and holy hell do I have to hold LOW yo get on paper... need to drift the sight....




    Get out to 100....and damn that front sight is fat ! Not a stellar day but is suspect she shoots better than I have held today....




    Time to find a replacement front sight that's a bit thinner....who in gosh darns name thought a roll pin would make a good front sight...????

    Danes.... and who knew the battle sight was 450.... not me.

    All this means is another trip to the range.... poor me !!!

    All in all very smooth, comfortable to shoot...little to no recoil and seems to like 150gr heads with 49.5grains of 4064.

    Minute of man I will tell myself.
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    I have one of these Canadaicon/Denmarkicon m1917s, Eddystone though, with nice bore. Shoots good, accurate.
    Need to find a consistent sight picture through that big rear aperture. Set it up for bird on a post. Set that bullseye right on top of that pin.

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