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    NPM with U on rear bevel

    Stumbled on this while looking at another item the seller has listed.
    Seller asking $8,000 for this Carbine using Larsons book for reference.

    NPM with U on rear bevel.
    Has only 1 cut out for slide dismount.

    Serial number not shown.

    Would this be a U S and S supplied receiver ?
    Anyone know the serial number range for these ?



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    1/2 hr after posting about the NPM U the Auction ended.
    Maybe a mistake with the listing format.

    Here it is for reference: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/779833015

    I see the same seller has other pricey carbines. Two I cut stocks that have slingwells marked with the RMC and I stamps that were early transfer stocks.
    Has a QHMC for $3,500. IBM for $7,000 and Inland hand stamp for $6,000. I remember this Inland as we questioned the sliver pulling from the left side of the receiver (his current pictures show the area) and that the 'Sliver' is minor/cosmetic.
    I'm watching..... If they sell, I may start selling
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    Charlie, I'm having trouble keeping up with all your finds! I've been looking at an NPM on GB, but not sure it's a different one, or not? - Bob

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/788768430

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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    Charlie, I'm having trouble keeping up with all your finds! I've been looking at an NPM on GB, but not sure it's a different one, or not? - Bob

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/788768430
    Bob,
    That's a different one.
    Now just after a very quick look.... Is it me or if you 'Hover' over picture #23 Does it look like the bolt may have a crack in it running from behind the Extractor towards the rear of the right lug ?
    May just be a milling scar or from tapping the Extractor down.
    You know I've had my share of troubles with NPM Bolts cracking... all being marked N14.
    Take a look and tell me your thoughts... remember look at the blown up version of the picture.

    Also don't see the NPM Punch mark near either of the 2 P's stamped on the barrel. That Punch mark 'WAS NPM's' proof mark.
    How do we explain the 2nd P ?
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    Charlie: That looks different than the crack on yours - see below. Have you broken that "new" one, already? I don't see the punch mark (s) either - maybe the barrel has been changed. Also, I thought the wood looked like it had indentations from a Type 2 or 3. Need to get away from the computer for awhile and get some chores done! - Bob

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    Check it out

    Bob,
    This isn't a U S &S sub made receiver,
    but a first block NPM that fellow member Martin08 purchased from the family of the Korean War Vet who brought it home.
    I use it to compare any want to be early NPM to.
    Has a sear marked B1, surely an integrated part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    Would this be a U S and S supplied receiver ?
    Anyone know the serial number range for these ?
    Charlie, according to CCNL 198-2, US&S delivered 50,052 receivers to NPM between 8/43-3/44. As far as that GB seller goes I have noticed his crazy prices before and it is all buy it now, he is waiting for the right sucker to come along.

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    If it sells, I have an all correct restored IBM/AO/NPM that I'll let go for $10,000!
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    Charlie: Yep, I remember that one - and "dummy" me has to criticize it for an upside-down oiler. - Bob

    These NPM posts remind me of a buddy's nice 4.1M that I've been trying deal him out of for 14 years - that one with the "S" in the wrong place on the rear sight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by W5USMC View Post
    Charlie, according to CCNL 198-2, US&S delivered 50,052 receivers to NPM between 8/43-3/44. As far as that GB seller goes I have noticed his crazy prices before and it is all buy it now, he is waiting for the right sucker to come along.
    The carbines that seller has have been on GB for what seems like years, if it actually hasn't been. Plus, about two or maybe three months ago they suddenly jacked up their already overpriced carbines to where they are now. I don't know if they are hoping for a unicorn buyer, saying f-you to the general buying public or both...very curious indeed and not a way to sell their wares.

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