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    In my opinion Cinders came up with the best solution.

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    Warning shots are not deadly force.

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    "Warning shots are not deadly force. " Yes but they can get you jail time. Shooting the person if you are in fear of your life may not get you jail time.

    Also - Fun update the gov official that I posted about earlier in this thread must have known somebody as he is out of jail and at Home, under house arrest. The pics show that the person shot was going out the door with his back to the person that shot him. Interesting. Also he did send in his notice while he was in jail, now out of jail, see above.

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    One of the Lakeland Goverment folks shot someone stealing in a store and is now in jail, unless strings are pulled will be staying in jail for a while.
    Must have found the right string to pull...
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    For those of us that are not so special, it can go different. A good family friend, a lawyer defended a client who shot someone 7 times in the chest with a 45cal. They arrested him and he spent 1 YEAR and 11 MONTHS in Jail before trial. No they did not allow "Stand your Ground". Jury took less than an hour to find the shooter NOT Guilty and released him. There is a long story that goes with this but we should note, he Spent 1 Year 11 months in Jail before being found Not Guilty and released. What it cost him for my friends legal team fees I don't want to know. Short Story on this, BOTH sides had the chance to Walk Away as has happened in many of these Fla "Stand your Ground" cases. Sometimes it just might be better to walk away or let them steal something from you. Yes, you could be in the right to stand your ground. This person was found Not Guilty after going thru everything.
    I'm going to go back to loading up another belt of 8mm now.

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    he Spent 1 Year 11 months in Jail before being found Not Guilty and released.
    Lesson here is #1 exercise your 5th and say nothing until you speak to your lawyer.
    More importantly,,,,#2 Don't waive your 6th under any circumstance. They like to have people do that because the courts are so backed up. Defense lawyers even go along with it, they're all in cahoots don't kid yourself. Not my problem you're backed up, GIVE ME MY SPEEDY TRAIL.


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    The simple fact is that it's not law enforcement's job to protect anyone. This may upset some folks but that's the law. Some will do it if thrown into a situation as just happened in California but it ain't the norm. Their job is to clean up the mess after it's happened and it's too late. My Sheriff and his Lieutenant were out here at my shop many years ago and told me that if something bad happens, I'd best be able to tend to it myself. They would be happy to come and help clean up the mess afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Dickicon View Post
    The simple fact is that it's not law enforcement's job to protect anyone.
    "protect & serve" is false advertisement. More like clean up and write up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Dickicon View Post
    The simple fact is that it's not law enforcement's job to protect anyone. This may upset some folks but that's the law. Some will do it if thrown into a situation as just happened in California but it ain't the norm.
    Brian,
    I recently read an article that I believe backs your statement.

    It was about Law enforcement professionals’ lack of understanding (confusion) of the legal principles of whats known as 'The Public Duty Doctrine'.

    This lack of understanding of the legal principles of the public duty doctrine often leads to inappropriate actions on the part of the officer. This fear of liability for “failure to act,” and the personal code of honor that many sworn public servants hold, influences their decision to take action at all costs to protect and defend life and property. While this desire to serve the public is commendable, police officers must understand that they have no obligation to protect any one individual unless a “special relationship” exists. Rather, an officer’s sworn duty is to the general public.

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