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    Still a nice rifle despite the sanding.
    But again, in the interest of getting the correct information out there the asterisk (or star in the case of Winchesters) on the bolt, extractor, receiver, barrel and roundel has nothing to do with Weedon. Only the star and letter marking on the grip if it is present is connected to Weedon overhaul.
    oldfoneguy, you keep insisting on this point for some reason despite repeatedly being told otherwise. MK1*'s have nothing to do with Weedon. Mk1's may or may not have had anything to do with Weedon. Whether it went through the Weedon Repair Standard or not has nothing to do with Mk1 or Mk1*, rifles of both types went through the overhaul. The program was not only specifically to update Mk1 rifles to Mk1*'s. Moreover, it would be ridiculous to maintain that all of the 670,000 plus rifles that went through the process were all Mk1's. There is no way that 50% plus of total Pattern 14 production was all early Mk1's. Finally, the idea that they went back or would specifically bother to go back and stamp an asterisk near the butt stock roundel during the Weedon process is ridiculous, despite earlier Commonwealth practices of amending or correcting butt stock markings, and they clearly did not do so. The finish of the metal parts and the matching of the roundel clearly indicate that the markings were not a later addition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AD-4NA View Post
    Still a nice rifle despite the sanding.
    But again, in the interest of getting the correct information out there the asterisk (or star in the case of Winchesters) on the bolt, extractor, receiver, barrel and roundel has nothing to do with Weedon. Only the star and letter marking on the grip if it is present is connected to Weedon overhaul.
    oldfoneguy, you keep insisting on this point for some reason despite repeatedly being told otherwise. MK1*'s have nothing to do with Weedon. Mk1's may or may not have had anything to do with Weedon. Whether it went through the Weedon Repair Standard or not has nothing to do with Mk1 or Mk1*, rifles of both types went through the overhaul. The program was not only specifically to update Mk1 rifles to Mk1*'s. Moreover, it would be ridiculous to maintain that all of the 670,000 plus rifles that went through the process were all Mk1's. There is no way that 50% plus of total Pattern 14 production was all early Mk1's. Finally, the idea that they went back or would specifically bother to go back and stamp an asterisk near the butt stock roundel during the Weedon process is ridiculous, despite earlier Commonwealth practices of amending or correcting butt stock markings, and they clearly did not do so. The finish of the metal parts and the matching of the roundel clearly indicate that the markings were not a later addition.


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    Well first off I find it strange that you feel the need to single me out for trying to help this gentleman.

    Fact, more Mk I's were made between 3/16 and 12/16 than were made as Mk I*'s between 12/16 and 4/17. Do the math that's 10 months of production versus 5 months of production.
    Fact, I explained that this particular rifle was a Mk I* from birth and as such didn't need the bolt lug upgrade.
    Question, who has been saying otherwise?
    Fact, rifles born as Mk I*'s did not receive the Weedon upgrade even if they went through a refurb.
    A good deal of rifles received an asterisk stamp on the stock.
    An even greater number had the asterisk stamp put on other parts the were changed during the Weedon process. Do some P14 extractor, bolt or stock shopping. Try and find these parts without asterisk stamps out in market now. Hey you know why so many of them have the stamp? Because so many went through the Weedon process.

    We can all read books, it's a shame some of us have better comprehension of what we read than others.

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    The Butt disc relates to the Army Service Corps, it only become the Royal Army Service Corps in late 1918 IIRC.


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