Enfield No4 MK1 Sniper rifle ?

[texmac1]

I purchased two Enfields one is a 1918 SMLE the other is a No4 MK1 dated 1933 and had the scope mounts installed so I began to research all the information I could find on the 4T rifles looking for the identifiers that would make it a 4t. what i did find serial number 4 digit beginning with A XXXX I believe is a BSA Shirley
scope pads are siversordred screws are not staked, side G crown R 1933 no4 mk1 A xxxx
The number on the butt stock were it meets the receiver 3238 {scope Number?}
It also has a mag cut off slot right side of the receiver.
There are no T marks that I can find were they made and not stamped with a T ?

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[Roger Payne]

If your 4T is dated 1933 then it can have only one manufacturer; RSAF Enfield, the 'home' of the Lee Enfield. It sounds like you have a very rare & desirable Trials rifle, made at Enfield & then converted to sniper configuration there in 1941 (or possibly, in 1942). If you can get us some photo's we can hopefully confirm this for you & possibly give you some more information about it.

The scope it bore, incidentally, was a No32 Mk1, serial number 3238, made by the Houghton Butcher Manufacturing Company of London, in 1941.

Can you post us a few pics?

[nijalninja]

Roger the 'T' man himself is quick off the bat. Some of the trials rifles conversions were not outfitted the exact same 3 screws up front and two on the back pads like the H and H conversions right? And the staking only took place after they started finding the pads coming loose after extended use. If they are not staked one could guess they never saw much work or for some reason did not see service after the time that staking was introduced.

I am pretty new to 4 (T)'s tex but an early trials No4 is something special all on its own.

[browningautorifle]

He states the pads are silver soldered(sic) and they're soft soldered...wonder if we'll hear back from him?

[Roger Payne]

Well, I hope so. I'm curious now, & there's a shedload of people who can help him if he'd care to post a few pix.......

[browningautorifle]

Pics are priceless...

[texmac1]

sorry for the late reply what photos would benefit identifying it i can strip it and take photos let me know

[Roger Payne]

I wouldn't ask you to strip it, at least at this stage. If you can just get some photo's of the rifle as a whole, plus some closer up of the receiver showing the markings on the butt socket & the area of the body pads, that would be a great start.

[texmac1]

photos taken today

[nijalninja]

For everything I know and what is pictured, it looks the goods to me. If all is what it looks to be it is an early trials No4/MKVI converted to (T) status at Enfield in the first 1000 or so (T)'s to be made. I don't know much about what to look for in the pads however. Other thing is the grooved top handguard, I am not sure if the trials had this groove or smooth. Someone smarter will have to confirm this. Looks pretty good otherwise, but under the finish looks to be pitting over most of the metal.