sadly I saw this in the Telegraph today

[browningautorifle]

Sadly with great experience surrounding Military Police practice, I have always been of the opinion that the MOD Police have always been "wanting" and lack "real and meaningful" investigative skills, and should stick to what they are good at, which is man guarding gates, their real purpose in life. They have always wanted to be real coppers!!

Ours are exactly the same. They get promotion by arrests only so they have to arrest and convict. If they don't try they can't succeed. Therefore they bash onward with garbage arrests, day late and dollar short. Unfortunately they aren't blessed with the real instinct for the job, thus they're MP not federal or provincial police...and only some of them are any good at their job.

When they told us the MPs were investigating this or that, we'd just reply..."The keystone cops again"... Virtually all their investigations turned foolish as they presented them.

[David TS]

lets see what gets rightfully handed back in smart and timely fashion

If only...............

[old tanker]

The prosecution was criminal while the reason for the persecution is political.

[Gil Boyd]

David,
If there is no case to answer, regardless of the weapon, they go back to owner, its just that this is the MOD Police, they have probably lost them, as they can't label a carrot coming before the court correctly!!

[David TS]

Gil

I am being very guarded in my response, all I will say is that it is likely that no seized property will be returned to owners voluntarily unless a judge has given specific directions for its return, action has to be taken to recover it. That is fact of how cases work these days.

[Peter Laidler]

Wise words David. This non-home office type of 'police' force, lacking any form of oversight and grown-up accountable supervision really needs a totally independent and close examination.

[jdmcomp]

Army base weapons theft jury unable to reach verdict - BBC News

Not guilty on all nine counts, a good ending for this trial.

[CINDERS]

Perhaps now they will give up and let those wrongfully persecuted get on with their lives besides I am pretty sure Peter would rather hang out here instead of a courtroom stuffed with idiots....

[Peter Laidler]

This is the state of play as at lunchtime on Thursday last......
Of the many counts and charges on the indictments

WITHDRAWN on order of the Judge early in the trial :1
Count 9, Rifle 000026, purchased

Not Guilty findings part way through on direction of the Judge :8
AB x3, RS x1, PLx1 + 3 associated with others

Not Guilty findings by Jury, unanimously :10
Counts 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 17, 19

Not Guilty counts by Jury on 10:2 majority :2
Counts 14, 16; SP walks free

‘Firearms’/deactivated charges dropped after expert opinion :7

Total dismissed so far :28

Guilty verdicts 0


Police cannot accept defeat and ask for a re-trial on all charges where verdicts could not be reached by hung Jury

PL x4; Cts 2, 8, 15, 18 and 1x Deact
RS x1 Ct 3
AB 1 (magistrates Court only)

Aren't you glad it's not your £2.2M that they have spent? If you live in the UK, it is!!!

[Frederick303]

I am pretty sure we are all pulling for you Sir, and wish you the very best success in this action. Many of us in fact, but since we have nothing to add we have been quiet.