BDL Ltd.
+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: 1942 simplified Enfield prototype

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Legacy Member 55recce's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Last On
    09-13-2023 @ 08:41 PM
    Posts
    82
    Real Name
    David
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 AM

    1942 simplified Enfield prototype

    anyone seen this? Wonder what it will go for?

    Extremely Rare Prototype British Lee-Enfield Rifle - Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 793001239
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 01:16 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    29,838
    Real Name
    Jim
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 AM
    I'd like to shoot it but wouldn't want one on issue. Should go high...
    Regards, Jim

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Contributing Member 303 Gunner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Last On
    03-24-2024 @ 09:20 PM
    Location
    Maine, United States
    Age
    34
    Posts
    181
    Real Name
    Joshua
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    01:43 PM
    There was one in the last Rock Island Auction. Ended up going for $5,500 before buyer's premium.

  6. #4
    Contributing Member Promo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    1,842
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:43 PM
    I am very sure this IS the rifle from RIA, note the identical light bottom of the butt stock: World War II British Enfield Bolt Action Prototype Light-Rifle Firearms Auction Lot-2626

  7. #5
    Advisory Panel Lee Enfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    03-16-2024 @ 12:24 PM
    Location
    out there
    Posts
    1,820
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    11:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Promo View Post
    I am very sure this IS the rifle from RIA, note the identical light bottom of the butt stock: World War II British Enfield Bolt Action Prototype Light-Rifle Firearms Auction Lot-2626
    Judging by the staining on the left side of the front band, and the damage to the right side of the forend and handguard, you are correct, it is the same gun.

    the one which I examined (sorry for the crappy photos, all I had was my phone and poor light)in 2013 is a different gun - this one in Canadaicon:
    Attachment 97656
    you can clearly see one of the rivets holding the barrel extension into place.
    It seems they used a similar system to the Sten Mk2 barrel trunnion (riveted into place on early and British guns).
    Attachment 97657[
    Last edited by Lee Enfield; 12-10-2018 at 01:36 PM.
    BSN from the Republic of Alberta

    http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/

  8. #6
    Advisory Panel tiriaq's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    Today @ 01:01 PM
    Location
    Central Ontario
    Age
    78
    Posts
    1,074
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    01:43 PM
    So the barrel screws into the collar which is riveted to the receiver, and the bolt locks to that?

  9. #7
    Contributing Member 303 Gunner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Last On
    03-24-2024 @ 09:20 PM
    Location
    Maine, United States
    Age
    34
    Posts
    181
    Real Name
    Joshua
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    01:43 PM
    Huh, I think you're right about it being the same one. It'll be curious to see if they make their money back...

  10. #8
    Advisory Panel Surpmil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    @
    Location
    West side
    Posts
    4,651
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    10:43 AM
    What a bleedin' waste of time that was for 1942. Still, the planning was probably done in 1940 or 41, and so they carried merrily on regardless. Somehow I can't see a third (fourth if you include the P14s and M17s) rifle being put into the production, supply and maintenance streams actually being of much use in any scenario!

    But then they were amusing themselves with the Ainley instead of a practical sniper rifle while Hitler annexed Czechoslovakiaicon, when what was really needed was something like the scope Dr. Common proposed forty years earlier and which finally arrived in obviously updated form as the SUSAT of the 1970s?

    Perhaps they should have put the experimental chaps to work converting No4(T)s since they had thousands of No32s sitting in store waiting to be fitted, and divisions waiting and waiting to receive them. (Why they didn't just ship them over to Long Branch in some of the many empty ships sailing west is another mystery)

    Meanwhile the Soviets fielded tens of thousands of well-trained and well-equipped snipers and must have extinguished the equivalent of a dozen Germanicon divisions of their most valuable personnel. Good thing someone did.

    One of the surprising things about war, even wars in which a country is threatened with invasion and dissolution, is how most of those who are sluggards in peace time continue to be sluggards in war time, and sadly many of them are in leadership positions.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

    Edward Bernays, 1928

    Much changes, much remains the same.

  11. #9
    Advisory Panel breakeyp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 03:29 PM
    Location
    near Detroit Michigan
    Age
    77
    Posts
    963
    Real Name
    Paul Breakey
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    01:43 PM
    More than five were made as my rifle has bayonet No. 7.

  12. #10
    Contributing Member Promo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    1,842
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:43 PM
    It originally sold for $ 5750 at RIA and again at $ 5825 via gunbroker. So he didn‘t win much on this rifle.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. "very rare prototype enfield ww1 spare mag. Carrier for smle rifle" (?)
    By peregrinvs in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 03-16-2015, 07:53 AM
  2. Enfield N0.5 prototype??
    By superbee in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 03-27-2014, 07:14 PM
  3. prototype p14 enfield
    By Tango89 in forum Pattern 1913/1914 and M1917 Rifles
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 06-14-2012, 09:55 PM
  4. 1942 lee enfield no. 4 mk. 2 (t)
    By Jgordon in forum Milsurps General Discussion Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-15-2011, 07:55 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Raven Rocks