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    I don't think the rifle is worth a jot less from a functional viewpoint - maybe one could even argue it's worth a premium as it's been 'gone over by someone who knows how to' recently. It's just 'collector mentality' - they like things (or at least many of them do) 'just like it left the factory in 1944'. I suspect this 'armourer vs collector' difference will probably never be reconciled.......simply two different points of view that perhaps could just do with peacefully co-existing!

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    I'd think restriking a number would solve that mystery. Then who would be able to say when that was done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    I'd think restriking a number would solve that mystery. Then who would be able to say when that was done?
    Careful! You will open a can of worms of people accusing you of forgery!
    I made the mistake of asking "what if" I did that to my bracket.... whoa boy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonh172 View Post
    You will open a can of worms of people accusing you of forgery!
    That was exactly what the armourers did. Restike the number on a bolt that wasn't suitable. Buy the rifle...not the story.
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    At the end of the day, opinions will vary, depending if he's the seller or the buyer!

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    To address the Q in the title my guess is that a mis matched bolt will reduce the value by 10 to 20%. Just a guess.

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    A number on a bolt may match the action number but does the bolt match the action.

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    I gotta go with Pete on this one, we simply adjust and refit a new/old bolt and renumber.

    However, as a collector, I also look at the existing proof stamps and view marks on the bolt, if they do not agree with the age of the rifle, than that gives me pause in purchasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muffett.2008 View Post
    I gotta go with Pete on this one, we simply adjust and refit a new/old bolt and renumber.

    However, as a collector, I also look at the existing proof stamps and view marks on the bolt, if they do not agree with the age of the rifle, than that gives me pause in purchasing.
    Why don't you trust your own work.

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    This conversation is straying somewhat far afield from the issues with this particular rifle. If the bolt had been refitted and renumbered in service, it would be a non-issue, to me at least, but in this case it is an obviously incorrect mis-match. But that does beg the question as to how how easy it is to tell if a bolt has been replaced at any point as long as the numbers match. There seem to be many different styles of fonts and marking procedures. In most cases I'd just be happy if the numbers match.

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