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    Need help IDing Austrian(?) musketoon(?)

    I've just come into a firearm that I definitely need help identifying..its Austrian I believe, with a Liege proofed barrel. Unit marked.Beyond that I don't know. I've never seen one like it, and can find nothing like it online. Any help is greatly appreciated!

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    Lorenz Jaeger?

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    I may have found what it is..a Lorenz Dornstutzen?

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    What a neat little piece. Very interesting rear sight.
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    I'm thinking jaegerstutzen now.

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    I've always fancied one of those, for the finely adjustable quadrant sight.

    If the backsight block is marked up to 1000 (Schritt, not metres!) then it is the " k.k Jägerstutzen M/54".
    If the backsight block is marked up to 1200 (Schritt, not metres!) then it is the " k.k Dornstutzen M/54".

    Otherwise, about the only difference is the presence of the "dorn" = pillar. With a pillar, it must be the Dornstutzen. But, since the pillar may have been removed at a later date, the absence of a pillar does not prove that it is the Jaeger.

    Hence the need to check the scale on the backsight block!
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    It looks like a Jaegerstutzen. The Dornstutzen has a longer support block beneath the sliding quadrant.

    Described in the book "Die Hand- und Faustfeuerwaffen der Habsburgischen Heere" as Variation "B" with the ramrod lying in a slot behind the ramrod pipe.

    The lockplate, dated (1)860, confirms that this is a later version. However, the ramrod pipe is mounted further back than on the example shown in the book (dated 1861). Transitional model/upgrade/repair?
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