+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Need help IDing Austrian(?) musketoon(?)

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Legacy Member Anzac15's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last On
    03-08-2024 @ 11:09 PM
    Location
    Suwanee, Ga.
    Posts
    1,491
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    08:37 AM

    Need help IDing Austrian(?) musketoon(?)

    I've just come into a firearm that I definitely need help identifying..its Austrian I believe, with a Liege proofed barrel. Unit marked.Beyond that I don't know. I've never seen one like it, and can find nothing like it online. Any help is greatly appreciated!
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. #2
    Legacy Member Anzac15's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last On
    03-08-2024 @ 11:09 PM
    Location
    Suwanee, Ga.
    Posts
    1,491
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    08:37 AM
    Thread Starter
    Lorenz Jaeger?

  3. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  4. #3
    Legacy Member Anzac15's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last On
    03-08-2024 @ 11:09 PM
    Location
    Suwanee, Ga.
    Posts
    1,491
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    08:37 AM
    Thread Starter
    I may have found what it is..a Lorenz Dornstutzen?

  5. #4
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 10:16 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    29,904
    Real Name
    Jim
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    06:37 AM
    What a neat little piece. Very interesting rear sight.
    Regards, Jim

  6. #5
    Legacy Member Anzac15's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last On
    03-08-2024 @ 11:09 PM
    Location
    Suwanee, Ga.
    Posts
    1,491
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    08:37 AM
    Thread Starter
    I'm thinking jaegerstutzen now.

  7. #6
    Advisory Panel Patrick Chadwick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Last On
    06-25-2023 @ 06:36 AM
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    5,032
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    03:37 PM
    I've always fancied one of those, for the finely adjustable quadrant sight.

    If the backsight block is marked up to 1000 (Schritt, not metres!) then it is the " k.k Jägerstutzen M/54".
    If the backsight block is marked up to 1200 (Schritt, not metres!) then it is the " k.k Dornstutzen M/54".

    Otherwise, about the only difference is the presence of the "dorn" = pillar. With a pillar, it must be the Dornstutzen. But, since the pillar may have been removed at a later date, the absence of a pillar does not prove that it is the Jaeger.

    Hence the need to check the scale on the backsight block!
    Last edited by Patrick Chadwick; 02-16-2019 at 12:37 PM.

  8. #7
    Advisory Panel Patrick Chadwick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Last On
    06-25-2023 @ 06:36 AM
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    5,032
    Local Date
    04-19-2024
    Local Time
    03:37 PM
    It looks like a Jaegerstutzen. The Dornstutzen has a longer support block beneath the sliding quadrant.

    Described in the book "Die Hand- und Faustfeuerwaffen der Habsburgischen Heere" as Variation "B" with the ramrod lying in a slot behind the ramrod pipe.

    The lockplate, dated (1)860, confirms that this is a later version. However, the ramrod pipe is mounted further back than on the example shown in the book (dated 1861). Transitional model/upgrade/repair?
    Last edited by Patrick Chadwick; 02-16-2019 at 01:15 PM.

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Potsdam musketoon/carbine?
    By Anzac15 in forum Black Powder
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 09-25-2015, 01:47 PM
  2. Austrian NPM-U-
    By ShaveTail in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 03-16-2010, 09:51 PM
  3. Austrian from CMP
    By BHP in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 05-21-2009, 04:30 PM
  4. Help with value of Gras Musketoon please..
    By Oatmeal Savage in forum Milsurps General Discussion Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-17-2009, 11:26 AM
  5. Austrian 308
    By big bear in forum Ammunition and Reloading for Old Milsurps
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 09-14-2008, 04:27 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts