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    "No5 Bayonet Frog"

    I noticed that one of our fellow members is looking to purchase a "No5 Bayonet Frog". The photo below shows a selection from my collection which I believe would be "correct" for the No5 bayonet and I believe any variation of one of these would also be correct. Personally, I wouldn't display a No5 bayonet with the horrible nylon type frog, bottom row, last 2 on right.
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    Hello, I posted the ad for the bayonet frog, That is a nice collection you have there. Would you be willing to part with one of your choice???


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    If you tap in "Britishicon bayonet frog" into eBay USAicon you should see a selection for sale. I would pick one, similar to what is my photo, and also go for one with the extra upper loop, like all of the ones on the top row of my photo. Remember the No5, No7, No9 and SLR bayonet all used the same No5 type scabbard.

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    Ok, thanks


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    IMA does have some reproduction frogs for sale but you shouldn't have too much trouble finding an original.

    You may come across examples that are Canadianicon made, especially in North America, which will be similar to UKicon produced examples, apart from the markings on the reverse.

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    A No.5 bayonet ‘could’ have been used with a variety of WWII and postwar Britishicon bayonet frogs, of which there are many. Then remember that there were fittings to carry bayonets on the side of 1944 and 1958 Pattern ammunition pouches.

    Personally, I think a No.5 would look good with one of the jungle green 1944 Pattern frogs:

    Pattern 1944 Web Equipment

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    I was hoping Peter would tell us which he saw used in fact, instead of speculation.
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    Thanks guys, for all the replies... I only found one on eBay similar to those pictured but only has the two wide lower bands. Seller stated it was black, ceremonial frog...any info from the wealth of knowledge here would be appreciated.


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    Dear o' dear....... In the Far East, we had No5 rifles and bayonet frogs sewn into our '44 webbing - as we did with the '58 type. For those earlier than that, you went to the QM's and got a big pile of '37 pattern webbing, signed for it and got whatever mix was in the pile. Neither the Tech QM, the dopey storemen - the blanket stackers - the room corporal or platoon Sgt or anyone else in the whole Field Army cared who made it, what factory it came from or where in the world it was made. Just so long as it was scrubbed clean and presentable, that was it. Whether i was for a No1, No4, No9, No7, No5, L1A1 type or whatever....... you got what you got. Can you imagine some asking the arms storeman if he could have a BSA made rifle or a Fazakerley SMG......

    Lads, that's NOT how it worked as I'm sure Muffer and Jim will confirm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    that's NOT how it worked
    I sort of figured that...We were lucky, only FN frogs were available by then.

    The only double standard was rifle slings. We had the brass buckled green web slings and .303 slings. And when you asked for a sling, you got a sling.
    Regards, Jim

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