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    For the data collectors, the rifle is serial number AB7897. It is also marked M47 (BSA Shirley) 1943. The scope number on the wrist is 6927. Rifle has the "TR" and "S51." It does not have the "S" or "T." It does have the rifle SN "7897" on the hidden ledge on the butt. Early "low" wood for fore-end. At the end of the video he put on a No. 32 Mk. I scope made by KL, serial number 7061 which he acquired from Roger Payneicon. The bracket appears to be a replica, possibly a Roger Payne one.
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    Another thing to remember is that if the barrel is bearing to the left or right of the fore-end, this is rectified by moving the opposite side of the body at the rear over to compensate. It only needs a touch and the accumulative movement at the muzzle cures it. Remember that fitting the fore-end is all done 'RELATIVE TO AND ABOUT THE SCREW, FRONT TRIGGER GUARD AND COLLAR'. A phrase that we all learned by heart, rote and parrot fashion.

    I wish out bolt action rifles part of out apprenticeship lasted the length of that video.

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    His "Chamber cleaning brush" is actually a chamber brush for AR15/M16icon not a .45 as stated. I'd never attack a bore like that, shoot it to get it loose and then clean... He seemed to be dealing with non existent problems, it shot fine except he pulled one...or so, changed his elbow position. I wouldn't hand him a rifle this expensive to do anything to. He gives a plug to Roger Payneicon for his scope work and mount too.

    Here's his repair at the back end...couldn't imagine finding that in my multi thousand $ rifle.
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    This video STILL makes me cringe every time I come across it on youtube after all this time. I hate it when I run into it again! Whats even worse are all the comments lauding how he "saved" this rifle from the grave when it probably didn't even need much of anything anyway. Sometimes you have to relax about what other people are doing to their possessions but the more views this video gets the more this garbage "how to" knowledge gets perpetuated.
    The video where he takes an unmolested No4 Mk2 out of the wrap instead of buying any of millions of No4's already in use and everyone compliments him for it is awful too. No4 Mk2s aren't my forte, but they are only original once.
    Oh and thanks to Seaforth72 I can make a note never to buy this "T"!
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    Poor old chap; he meant well enough. I felt sorry him getting such a roasting, but if rock 'n roll is a vicious game, firearms videos aren't much easier!

    And in truth, the "T" really didn't need any sort of "restoration"; a rifle of that age and history should be cleaned and left well enough alone.
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    Whatever grievous sins he has committed he was a gent to deal with. And our transaction was not the easiest. When he bought the scope off me for that rifle it got damaged in transit. The ocular housing ended up with a nasty dent in it - presumably a postal or border force worker had dropped it. Luckily it wasn't damaged optically, & he took it all in good part & sorted it out himself. And no, I haven't seen the finished job......but he is happy with it.
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    Well, you gents that have dealt with him needn't feel too bad, he gets compliments everywhere but here.

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