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    I try about once a week to see if I can find any updates about this case but so far haven't found anything.
    Anyone that lives out that way and hears anything.... Please chime in.

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    Noted that someone asked about what kind of test/investigation will be done on the seized weapons... My best guess (and I ran a property room for two years during my career - retiring out in 1995...) is that each weapon impounded will at least be run through NCIC (or whatever the equivalent is today...) to see if it's been reported stolen... That's if the weapon has a serial number (and many manufactured before 1968 for the civilian market may never have had a serial number...). A stolen or wanted entry into the firearms database is pretty much there forever until purged for one reason or another. I once took in an older .22 rifle and ran what I thought was the serial number through the system and it came back with almost 30 hits... over a span of forty years... What happened? The number I ran was actually the patent number - very prominently displayed on the barrel... The problem? Other agencies had made the same mistake - entering what they thought was the serial number on a gun that actually never had a serial number on it....

    We took the incident to heart and actually notified every agency with that listing of the problem - it was up to them to cancel out the wrong entries (only the originating agency can cancel or remove a stolen gun report..).

    As far as any other testing goes I'd be very surprised to hear that any department or agency would do a single test - without some specific reason about a specific weapon since the testing process costs money - and most agencies barely have enough in their budgets to be able to do the necessary work (and quite a few would have to send a weapon out to a state or federal lab since they simply won't have the ability in house..).

    The final disposition of seized firearms? After any and all cases have run through the courts the owner(s) can request their property be returned - but only if found not guilty of whatever crimes were charged... If no charges are ever brought (and there will be occasions where weapons are seized in a situation where no actual criminal charges are brought forward) - then the owner (if identified) can ask for a court order to retrieve his or her property...

    Where I worked any weapons not returned would eventually be destroyed. My agency would never have considered selling them under any circumstances since it's a direct liability to a police chief's job if the slightest problem occurred after any seized weapon was used improperly later on...

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    They sell confiscated arms here.

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    Y'all must not have the number of lawyers we have down here in paradise (south florida...). In my 22 years in that world I worked for five different chiefs (a below average number since the average tenure of most chiefs nationwide was around 18 months in my era.. don't have the faintest idea of what it is today...). Every one of them would have looked at me like I had two heads if I even suggested that we sell confiscated weapons. The best we were ever allowed to do was convert the better ones to "City use" and log them in as department property before issuing them out to a member of the force that had a need... All of that ended when we finally got a very modern chief who got us really quality hardware and specified that we had to use it (Sig Sauer 229's in 40 cal, H & K Mp 5's for our SRT, etc.)...

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    "...What happens about the damage to the weapons if..." All of 'em will very likely be chopped regardless of what the courts decide. Quite likely before the case gets to court. No PD or DA's office is likely to have the storage capacity for that much evidence. Isn't likely they'd do any ballistics tests either. It's highly probable that some of 'em will go 'missing' too.
    "...is law enforcement likely to investigate who..." Nope. No money for that sort of thing in most jurisdictions. As far as the Constabulary is concerned, they just got a bunch of guns off the street. What happens after that they don't care about.
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    1,200 guns 7 tons of ammo + cash

    How about this seizure back in 2015?

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/0...lah-dnt-ac.cnn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunray View Post
    All of 'em will very likely be chopped regardless of what the courts decide. Quite likely before the case gets to court.
    That's Nuts !!
    Are we to believe they'd destroy the evidence 'before the case gets to court' ?
    What will become of the guns will depend on a Judges decision IF the man is found guilty and convicted.
    If some how linked to the Getty family I'd think the defendant will have legal consul covered.

    Here's another Weapons Cache Seizure from June 2018 in Agua Dulce, CA also claiming to be the biggest ever.
    The owner was a felon.
    Listen to what the reporter says at 1:28 after asking the Detectives 'What will become of all the weapons' ?

    Weapons Cache Seized, Man Arrested in Agua Dulce - NBC Southern California
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    Kommiefornia, in some states if the courts returned the weapons and damage could be proved...relief in civil court could be sought. In Kommifornia these guns are scrap metal. I don’t travel to Kommifornia, New Jersey, or Hawaii, Colorado is close to making the list.

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